Copper monolithic bullets, like barnes (i tried some)

[Elk868]

I only can talk for myself - in pic you see 3 shots with my Remington long range 1 shot I did mistake . And I did more shooting and ammo confirmed this accuracy . Target was 100 m. . 300 win mag with 168 gr tsx - speed 3359 fps

 

[john k]

Thank you

Thanks.
Where in Florida. I'm near Crystal River...Gulf coast.

I'm 20 minutes north of Gainesville. I have a good friend and fellow member in Crystal River, Joseph Singleton. We help each other out with components, etc. I will give him a heads up. I go down that way 1-2 times per month.

 

[memtb]

I am not sure exactly what is intended by this statement, and I see it a lot, but from my perspective I don't see it as very applicable in my case. I want my gear and ammo to be very precise and accurate as is possible to achieve, even for hunting. I think it is a given that bullet placement is far more important than penetration or expansion (to a point of course). I have taken great care and expense to set up most of my hunting rifles for precision and have meticulously developed loads and drop charts for a wide range of shot distances. Furthermore, depending on the situation, I take a good deal of head shots, neck shots, and high shoulder anchor shots, and often go for the heart, again at varying distances. Therefore, I must trust myself to make those kinds of shots and trust that my ammo to do the same. Therefore, for me, hunting accuracy must be very precise, accurate, and repeatable. I do understand (and don't condone) that many are satisfied with pie plate (or boiler plate) accurate at close or moderate range, but for me "accurate enough for hunting" is an ambiguous statement to use in a broad sense. I want my hunting ammo to approach target accuracy to the extent possible.

Edit: By the way, I use several copper monos for hunting.

While I agree with your premise that we all should try for optimal accuracy…….exactly how much better do you want/expect from a Barnes Bullet than repeatable 1/2" to 1 " groups ….
depending upon rifle and shooter!

I will suggest that in the field, it will be the very rare individual that can benefit from sub 1/2" groups! memtb

 

[rm76]

Some good wisdom there, and I think this is what I am trying to do with being as precise as possible. When some error of judgement is made, a 0.5 moa rig (and hunter) will stand a greater chance of clean kill than a 2 moa rig if a couple of inches off from point of aim. As the saying goes "aim small, miss small". This methodology (and knowing my limitations) has served me well over the years.

 

[LoneTraveler]

The all copper bullets are long for weight. They have to build an hollow opening in the nose of the bullet so the bullet will open. I have tried Hornady all copper 165 gr. in my 300WSM with 2" groups at 100 m. Tried the Nosler E-Tip 168gr. in the rifle and they shot good, Less the 1" at 100 meters. Ordered another box of bullets and they had put the groove around the front edge of the bullet body, Did not shoot worth crap, 2 1/2" at 100 Meters. All bullets were longer than 180 gr. Jacket and core bullets. The rifle is a 2004 Kimber Montana.
I have a box of Barnes 150gr. TTSX that are close 180gr. length. I have been wanting to try them. But no rush, At 80 and 4 bypass heart surgery, Those days of big hunting trips to the high country, Hearing the bulls bugle that I love, Now is just memories.

 

[mtshtr]

Cleaned the bore extremely well. Boretech c4 carbon remover then their copper remover. Then c4 again. Then copper again. Clean patches. Then 91% alcohol with some powdered graphite on a patch.

Going to try at 1000yds tomorrow.

 

[mtshtr]

1000 yards.
Shot well.

 

[mtshtr]

 

[crazymonkey]

It's a custom built off a interarms Mauser . It's got a 26inch brux barrel and I'm running it suppressed.
PLEASE NOTE WORK UP YOUR OWN LOAD .
IM RIGHT AT PRESSURE AND IT DOES LEAVE A SLIGHT EXTRACTOR MARK! NO OTHER ISSUES.

The load is
Lapua brass ,fed 215 primer, 51.3 gr staball6.5 and a 140 gr ttsx.
I had thought about backing it down a grain or two but it just flat shoots amazing.

Here's a five shot group at 100yds . I did pull one shot.
Shot 1 3105.3
Shot 2 3089.6
Shot 3 3094.9
Shot 4 3111.4
Shot 5 3094.0
3099.0 avg and a std dev 8.0
My guess is it's a little faster due to temp ? It was 94. Out today

 

[Elk868]

Hy crazymonkey
I think yes . Slightly more speed might make it perfect . Copper bullets love speed. But be careful and just very small steps.

 

[HARPERC]

I am not sure exactly what is intended by this statement, and I see it a lot, but from my perspective I don't see it as very applicable in my case. I want my gear and ammo to be very precise and accurate as is possible to achieve, even for hunting. I do understand (and don't condone) that many are satisfied with pie plate (or boiler plate) accurate at close or moderate range, but for me "accurate enough for hunting" is an ambiguous statement to use in a broad sense. I want my hunting ammo to approach target accuracy to the extent possible.

.300 RUM 163 Hammer HHT 100 yards.0.51-0.52 group.

No its never going to be competitive in a benchrest match, but yes good enough for me. It might be improved upon by trial and error, but a waste of barrel life and components in my opinion.

 

[crazymonkey]

.300 RUM 163 Hammer HHT 100 yards.0.51-0.52 group.

No its never going to be competitive in a benchrest match, but yes good enough for me. It might be improved upon by trial and error, but a waste of barrel life and components in my opinion.View attachment 575454

What are you shooting them outa gun wise? And load combo. I just picked up a 300rum a few weeks back and just started shooting last week . A rem 700 deluxe I topped with a arken epl5 6x24x50 . I was testing barns 180 ttsx . Starting load
Adg brass, fed215,90gr retumbo .
As I went up in powder my SD and es came up so I'm probably going to leave it . I didn't get a target picture but got the garmin data

 

[Gary in MD]

I'm working on loads now for my '06 that I'm taking to S.A.
168 grain TTSX at around 2900 should do the trick for plains game.

 

[DuckHunt]

Just got my first suppressor a few weeks ago. Range time to check zero - 7RM 150 TTSX at 100 yards. (1" squares)