Ok so I guess where we might disagree is the factory perspective. I don't personally think there should be anything factory about long range hunting. At least factory ammo. If you are buying factory ammo to shoot in a factory rifle I don't accept that. I can see factory rifles being acceptable. But a factory 7rm will (generally) outrun anything in its class with light or heavy bullets in my experience. And the same cannot be said for just about any cartridge. You cannot build a custom 7mm-08 to shoot 180 grain bullets at 3000fps. You can with a 7rm. Which is what I'm pointing out. It's the perfect capacity IMO to do great things with 180 class bullets. That cannot be done with every case.Of course you can do that - the same can be said for just about any cartridge. They just weren't offered in that configuration in factory rifles. All things are possible with custom rifles…
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