Buzzsaw
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keep sending range reports. I'm looking at one along with the Bergara HIT and the Seekins Competition.
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What’s wrong with the SA 2020 Waypoint rifle?
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Flatbow
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Shure does!
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DoneNOut
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Can we have a race? 
QuietTexan
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I've been able to mess around with one. Seems nice, action feels good - looser than a Seekins but tighter than a Remington. Felt like a feather, handled lighter than an Anti-X/Proof Carbon to me but I didn't have them side by side at the same time so could be bias there, comparing based on neither having scopes on and that can be a little bit or a lotta bit of weight depending on what you want to run. Topped the SA with a low-power Vortex that was fairly light so it still balanced well.
Chamber was a 6.5 CM, pretty hard to mess that up. For all the hate they get for being a fad it's an easy cartridge to shoot (I swear half of the "it shoots SO GOOD" myth of the 6.5 CM is because the shooter wasn't getting his nuts kicked to his throat by his pappy's metal butt plated 300 WM any more
). Shot factory ammo well enough to zero it and send it on it's way.
Even if you want a full-on benchrest something fancy, once you eat the cost of a BAT Action nothing else costs more. BR shops stock barrels just like PRS shops stock pre-fits.
It's guys who have no relationship to the shop, who show up in October asking for a new rig that they just have to have right away for a hunt that was scheduled two years ago, making weird demands from the internet that they just have to have because that's what the internet says my dude - THAT drives shops mad. And the long lead times are mainly for odd parts - if you want an 8 twist .264 there are 19 of those barrel blanks lined up, but the guy that has to have the custom 7.785 twist because that's what the internet told him is magic for his Creedmoor, enjoy that wait buddy.
If a shop has something you want, there's a reason (it's COMMON). If the shop doesn't have what you want, there's also a reason for it - it's probably stupid and you shouldn't do it. I'm fortunate that my guy has a screw or three loose like I do, and when I show up it's time to work and not ask questions
Chamber was a 6.5 CM, pretty hard to mess that up. For all the hate they get for being a fad it's an easy cartridge to shoot (I swear half of the "it shoots SO GOOD" myth of the 6.5 CM is because the shooter wasn't getting his nuts kicked to his throat by his pappy's metal butt plated 300 WM any more
). Shot factory ammo well enough to zero it and send it on it's way.Man you need to 1) make a relationship with a smith, and 2) shop your own parts. I've never spent $6,000 on any rifle, ever. Scopes yes, rifles heck no. $1100 for a Defiance Tenacity, $450 for a barrel from Bugholes, $1k for Foundation stock that came in under 8 weeks, $250 trigger and about $500 for the metal work and bedding. $3,250 out the door unless you want to put fancy paint jobs or a bunch of BS extras into it. If I have parts in hand the turn around is measured in weeks for my guy, he'll cut a heck of a chamber too.
Even if you want a full-on benchrest something fancy, once you eat the cost of a BAT Action nothing else costs more. BR shops stock barrels just like PRS shops stock pre-fits.
It's guys who have no relationship to the shop, who show up in October asking for a new rig that they just have to have right away for a hunt that was scheduled two years ago, making weird demands from the internet that they just have to have because that's what the internet says my dude - THAT drives shops mad. And the long lead times are mainly for odd parts - if you want an 8 twist .264 there are 19 of those barrel blanks lined up, but the guy that has to have the custom 7.785 twist because that's what the internet told him is magic for his Creedmoor, enjoy that wait buddy.
If a shop has something you want, there's a reason (it's COMMON). If the shop doesn't have what you want, there's also a reason for it - it's probably stupid and you shouldn't do it. I'm fortunate that my guy has a screw or three loose like I do, and when I show up it's time to work and not ask questions
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Buzzsaw
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I have a very good relationship with my rifle builder here in Texas. He's done 3 rifles for me and worked on a couple more. He you can get pretty much what you describe above, but add-on a brake, Tuner Brake, TT Diamond trigger, Cerekote, Carbon fiber barrel, which I don't consider "BS" extras, Hello $4,000+ or close. OH yes, we STILL pay sales Tax in Texas so add on another 8.25%.
QuietTexan
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Did you really just try to add sales taxes to a price comparison? You pay sales taxes on the SA2020 also
A muzzle thread job is about $150 tops IF it's not included in the base metal work ( I usually use self-timing brakes so I'm not paying to turn to contour and time a brake. TT Diamond is only $319, the Special is $209 so look we saved $41 dollars right there on the $250 I budgeted, and yes I consider Cerekote (really all painting) to be BS. Straight stainless steel is the ultimate weather finish.
Maybe you can't leave your rifle in a salty tidal pool on the Alaska coast for 9 weeks, but in terms of being a fully functional and viable option.... yes, straight SS is just fine.
Has anyone ever, in the history of ever, lost an animal because of flash off their rifle's metal? Only on the internet....
If you have, a can of Krylon is like 9 bucks.
Buzzsaw
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some go cheap, never been that guy but I can see where some might have to cut a corner or two.
wait, what are we arguing over?
wait, what are we arguing over?
QuietTexan
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Aww, it's ok. Just remember that stainless steel is an upcharge over CroMo.
Ultimately, we're Texans and we might be 5'9", but when that oil money is in my wallet I'm 6'3"
Ultimately, we're Texans and we might be 5'9", but when that oil money is in my wallet I'm 6'3"
Buzzsaw
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Haha, sometimes my stupid kicks in, sorry about thatAww, it's ok. Just remember that stainless steel is an upcharge over CroMo.
Ultimately, we're Texans and we might be 5'9", but when that oil money is in my wallet I'm 6'3"
QuietTexan
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I wish I had oil money.... from the mailbox. Only oil money I ever saw came out of a dirty company onesie in the bed of a diesel I didn't own.
Ronald W Schaefer
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Been waiting for 2 years for a custom Dury's 30-06 because I 'need" to replace the suer 90 I handed down to my son. I waited for 14 months for a Fierce Firearms custom in 7mm-08 and now pushing 13 months on a 6.8 Western. If it doesn't get here pretty soon, I think I'll go off the shelf for a Browning X-Bolt White Gold Medallion or a tried-and-true SAKO 85--a bit heavier and without the "blingie" Carbon Barrel but about 5K cheaper than the customs. I have several of each and my experience is with a good Optic you can take the Browning/SAKO out of the box, buy some good quality ammo and shoot sub-moa. You can cheat on your reloading work up by seeing which factory bullet shoots best at what speed, then clone it. I did exactly that with my last purchase of a beautiful blonde wood White Gold Medallion with sexy octagon stainless barrel in 6.5 PRC--nick named Charlize Theron. I put on a Leo VX6 HD, zeroed with factory, then shot six different brands of ammo across the chrony. One trip later I had my cloned load and sent digits off to Leo for the custom turret.
I did exactly that with my last purchase of a beautiful blonde wood White Gold Medallion with sexy octagon stainless barrel in 6.5 PRC--nick named Charlize Theron. I put on a Leo VX6 HD, zeroed with factory, then shot six different brands of ammo across the chrony. One trip later I had my cloned load and sent digits off to Leo for the custom turret.westexhunt
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I ordered from palmetto state. Norma 6.5 prs ammo is cheap right now so that sold me
it does. Haven't heard any horror stories yet on them. Most are pleased.
Their pricing was good.
QuietTexan
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No factory rifle will ever do more for me than what the Browning's do. Nothing except maybe a case-hardened Ruger No. 1or a factory Super Grade comes close. The RMEF X-Bolt is beautiful.
