Whats the worse rifle or gun you ever bought?

[Bobhunts]

Marlin XL7 Chambered in .270 win! Shot factory ammo so bad I never even played with it. I bought it to replace my daughters Savage Model 110 that shot really good.

 

[Jonfitter#1]

Did you ever try another break to see how it shot?

The smith they had me send it to put another accubrake on it and it shot fine. It was the whole point of what happened. Should never have been.

 

[Old Hickory 45]

I bought a beautiful custom made .218 bee that kept breaking firing pins so I returned it to the maker.
Another, I bought the first model Savage 93 .17 HMR and as soon as I opened the box, the safety lever fell out. The trigger was absolutely the worst and the stock was 1" too short for me. A total custom job converted it to a very fine rifle, shown below. The curly grain cherry wood stock is a left hand stock on a right hand rifle. Click on the picture. I don't think they made a lefty model then.

 

[M1A1ABRAMS]

I bought a beautiful custom made .218 bee that kept breaking firing pins so I returned it to the maker.
Another, I bought the first model Savage 93 .17 HMR and as soon as I opened the box, the safety lever fell out. The trigger was absolutely the worst and the stock was 1" too short for me. A total custom job converted it to a very fine rifle, shown below. The curly grain cherry wood stock is a left hand stock on a right hand rifle. Click on the picture. I don't think they made a lefty model then.

It's most likely the angle of the picture. That scope sure looks close to the barrel. I have been looking at the same type of stocks. LH stock for a RH action. I have a certain grade school teacher to thank for me being right handed. When I was born left handed. Because she couldn't figure out how to teach me to write cursive with my left hand. So she made me learn right handed. I have learned to perform a lot of task with either hand since then. But shooting just feels more natural left handed. I have switched to right handed with my bows though. Rifles seem to be the hardest. And shooting billiards.

 

[Radman]

Used Remington 700 BDL 280 Rem, will not group, a similar gun shoots same loads very well. It is a barrel candidate.

Ditto.

 

[Radman]

The worse rifle I ever bought was a tie between a Winchester model 70 stainless control feed 338 win mag and a CVA express muzzleloader honorable mention is a new one a kimber model 84 in 6.5 cm .The Winchester model 70 stainless with a boss was about a total flop but a friend shot 7 moose with it in Alaska .The finish some kinda coating rusted and flaked in the gun case .The magazine wouldn't work I had to get a whole new trigger guard and magazine .The worse thing they totally drilled the scope mount holes totally crooked making it almost impossible to get a scope to work .I finally got Burris signature rings with offset to tje maximum offset .The scope barely could site in .Winchester almost replaced the whole gun but backed out because there were any more boss 338s .The cva express muzzleloader was total junk it had one site for two barrels and fell off .I finally got a set if express sites which heroes. THE funnest thing is that it fell apart many tomes because the hinge pin fell out making the gum fall apart cba finally fixed it but didn't want to .The kmber model 84 in 6.5 cm just jams and kimber refuses to fix it .I don't know if it's yhe magazine or the bedding .I am going to try another magazine hopefully that works .The other problem with it is lack of scope mounrs I can't find one for this model totally sold out .I wish companies would furnish at least weaver bases .Bad guns totally stink I had a few more too a marlin muzzleloader that's hangfires like up to 10 mins later is the most unsafe I quit shooting it .

I normally don't bash brands, just commending.the best, however this thread seemingly refuses to die so... I've had, IMO, 1 bad Browning & 2 bad Rossi's.
Now don't get me started on scopes/laser range finders. I won't even go there.
You live/shoot long enough, (shooting 60 years for me), you'll likely see failures in every brand. I've had some GREAT el cheapos & some high ends that were crap! I've even seen 2 brand new bootleg products that WERE NOT made by the supposed manufacturer. As many here know, be careful when ordering off the net. JMO

 

[Jack Sherwood]

There's no such thing to me as a "bad" rifle, only rifles of lesser value.
I've had rifles that I couldn't get to group, and friends could.
I've had rifles that shot well for me, and friends have accused me of selling them a "bad" rifle until proven otherwise.
Case in point: I bought a Savage predator in 6.5cm and only could get a 2 in group with extensive factory rounds and many more reload recipes.
My son went out with me to see if it was "bad" and shot a 1/2 moa 5 shot group with factory 143gr ELDX's.
Needless to say, he bought the rifle.
I then bought a Weatherby Vanguard, and problem solved.

 

[lyle2231]

There's no such thing to me as a "bad" rifle, only rifles of lesser value.
I've had rifles that I couldn't get to group, and friends could.
I've had rifles that shot well for me, and friends have accused me of selling them a "bad" rifle until proven otherwise.
Case in point: I bought a Savage predator in 6.5cm and only could get a 2 in group with extensive factory rounds and many more reload recipes.
My son went out with me to see if it was "bad" and shot a 1/2 moa 5 shot group with factory 143gr ELDX's.
Needless to say, he bought the rifle.
I then bought a Weatherby Vanguard, and problem solved.

Had a similar experience, tried this experiment with same gun/ammo combination. I fired a group (disappointed) then buddy fired a group. We determined that it was my head position on the stock combined with changing points of aim.
We determined that I was looking over the muzzle and not pointing at the same point every time.

 

[SilverbulletMAG]

Mossberg Patriot "muddy girl" for the wife... that rifle couldn't hit the broadside of a barn! Also had the scope mount tapped crooked. Sent it in 3 times. Finally able to mount a scope somewhat straight, but still shoots like crap at 3 MOA with any off the shelf ammo. Mossberg said it's within their acceptable range - last Mossberg I'll ever buy. First rifle I've ever been tempted to dump at a pawn shop, but felt guilty passing on my problem child to someone else.
After many, many, many tests, finally able to get MOA with Hammers (handloads). Probably spent 10X what the rifle is worth just trying to make it shoot! On a positive note, I can say it's nice and light, easy to pack, and I don't hate the trigger. But accuracy is #1 priority in my book and for the average Joe, this rifle was a total fail. You're dead to me Mossberg!

 

[Jack Sherwood]

Weeping Jesus! Thankfully you weren't hurt!

I once had a grip cap come off on a Weatherby Vanguard, called the factory and wanted to order another and the receptionist said " WOW, I happen to have one here on my desk, I'll mail it to you free of charge".
I know, I know it's a $1.98 item, but the customer service was good that day!

 

[Rick79]

A buddy of mine's dad bought him a Sako in 30-06 while we were in college 25 years ago. He could never get it to shoot less than 2". We went out shooting with a Winchester 670 in .243 I got from my grandfather and he put five shots you could cover with a nickel. He kept the target to show to his dad. Lol.

 

[fta0303]

A Kimber Compact Aluminum Stainless in .45 ACP. Handy gun, good appearance, but it would fail to chamber a round about 5% of the time. I tried every kind of ammo I could get my hands on, same result. Kimber would do nothing. A self-defence weapon that fails 5% of the time is a death-trap. Garbage. Never bought another Kimber.

I bought a used Weatherby Mark V Dangerous Game Rifle in .340. One receipt, I found that the action/barrel assembly would not come out of the stock - someone had Accra-Glassed it without covering the metal, so it was in effect one piece. The stock was also not a DGR stock. I finally figured the rifle was an ordinary Mark V that someone had put open sights on. I refused it on receipt, fortunately, for one reason or another, that was the one purchase I made under escrow, so no problem with a refund. This was through one of the bigger on-line gun sales sites, wouldn't blame them, just the seller.

A custom rifle. I required that it load and shoot 160 gr Hornady round nose bullets. Started as a 6.5-284. Got it, fired it, wouldn't feed, the fired case had carbon around the neck. I measured it out of interest, found the neck OD to be over spec by 5 thousandths. Returned it, told the smith he could fix it by boring it to a 6.5 Wby RPM and correcting the feed problem. Got it back, was OK, but wouldn't chamber rounds with the requested bullet. Wouldn't feed any round nose bullet. I asked the smith for a refund, which he willingly gave. I bought a Wby Mark V for half the money, nice rifle, but it won't feed round nose either. Wby said "It's not designed to feed that bullet." I guess cheaper not to chamfer the feed ramp.

 

[lyle2231]

I once had a grip cap come off on a Weatherby Vanguard, called the factory and wanted to order another and the receptionist said " WOW, I happen to have one here on my desk, I'll mail it to you free of charge".
I know, I know it's a $1.98 item, but the customer service was good that day!

Had a similar experience with Redding. Excellent customer service!

 

[fta0303]

I had a Ruger American Rimfire that shot 6-8" groups at 50 yards that was of the usual Ruger inferior fit and finish. Remington 783 that just would not feed from the magazines properly. Granted those are both budget offerings, so the expectations was pretty low.

I also made the mistake of buying a Desert Tech MDRX because I had been following their development since the beginning and it was sort of a bucket list gun for me. Was not worth the money, clumsy trigger and horribly heavy controls due to being a bullpup. The handguard attachment was weak, and the barrel could be installed clocked slightly left or right. When you pull the trigger and nothing happens, there is no way to assess or see what was wrong. Finicky ejection system as well with the forward ejection model, but that was all they had at the time. I think the gas system also needed a lot of break in, more so than I was willing to commit to in light of all the other problems. Also found out that DT is a lot more of a small scale/boutique/fly by night type of company than I had previously realized. Not trying to bad mouth them, but trying to get the "upgraded" handguard what a lesson in patience. Sold it and got my money back but it was disappointing considering how excited I had been to finally get my hands on one.

I strongly considered one, but went with K&M M17S in .308. It's a very good rifle. I didn't buy the Desert Tech becasue I didn't trust the new-fangled ejection system design. The K&M has a very good trigger, unusual in a bullpup. Very strong rifle, faultless firing reliability. Very pleased with my K&M.