Maybe I didn't read close enough but I didn't see anyone claiming you need a 300 or larger to kill an elk. I've heard of elephants being killed by a .22. Dead is dead. Shot placement is more important than caliber!! If I had a charging (put anything dangerous here) I would chose to defend myself with my .300 weatherby. Not because it's the biggest or badest cartridge, it's because I've shot it the most and I believe in it. I have bigger and badder rifles. I just don't have the confidence in them like I do in old Roy. If it's legal, and you trust it, you should use it! While we have got a little off topic OP ask which we prefer .30 or .27. Almost 2-1 prefer the 30. I'm in that group. Not because the .27 won't kill. It will. When I hunt seriously you can bet I will be packing one of my many .30's. I know them. I know how they shoot, and I prefer them to all others.
This post, ^^^^ is well stated, IMHO ! We hunters are doing a disservice to, the younger Hunter's, when we recommend MORE Gun than, they can "comfortably" shoot, "WELL",.. but enough Gun, to HUMANELY "down", whatever Game that's being Hunted !EXACTLY! I cringe every time I read caliber recommendation threads for elk or bear or whatever and guys are saying calibers under 300 win mag or 338 win mag shouldn't even be considered and they aren't adequate for elk. I think people confuse their personal preference with what is really needed to kill these animals. If you want to own and hunt with large calibers do it - different strokes for different folks...don't say that smaller calibers are inadequate or shouldn't be used to kill elk or bears or big muleys. It's just not true. I don't have anything against large or magnum calibers either...I own and have owned and hunted with several different ones.
To be truly honest, I don't have a "favorite", Caliber/ Cartridge,..
I have shot, the .270 Win, .270 Wby, .270 WSM w/ 130's to 150 grain bullets, .30-06 w/ 165's, 7mm's w/ 140-150's, and 7mmRem Mag w/ 154-162's and I shot them ALL,.. WELL,.. in Field positions, lots of, rounds with,.. enjoyment !
The .338 Win Mag,. NOT, so much !! I was always thinking about, possible, FLINCHING and "Weatherby Eye" if not held, just right ! I've killed Elk with, the .338 WM and the .270 WSM- 7mm RM, "class cartridges" and they all,..died.
I agree completely. Especially if you live there and get to hunt the season and not just a few days. If I get to go out west and hunt again, it will cost thousands of dollars and I will only have a few days to hunt. Under these conditions I would never even consider taking anything but my big rifle, a 300RUM. It will be loaded with a boned bullet over 200 grains. I just might have to take the shot I get instead of waiting for the one I want. If I lived there, most likely I would be toting a 280AI in a pretty lite rifle.EXACTLY! I cringe every time I read caliber recommendation threads for elk or bear or whatever and guys are saying calibers under 300 win mag or 338 win mag shouldn't even be considered and they aren't adequate for elk. I think people confuse their personal preference with what is really needed to kill these animals. If you want to own and hunt with large calibers do it - different strokes for different folks...don't say that smaller calibers are inadequate or shouldn't be used to kill elk or bears or big muleys. It's just not true. I don't have anything against large or magnum calibers either...I own and have owned and hunted with several different ones.
Without a doubt.Yeah, definitely missing a few other good options in there... I wouldn't even put .277 on the list, personally...
I would say .284 (7mm) caliber is my favorite. And 7mm SS, .280 Sherman, 7mm RemMag, .28 Nosler, or 7mm STW would be my preferred cartridge options.
The 7mm STW RULES!You need at least two more options, 6.5 and 7mm.
My favorite is the 7mm STW and second to it would be the .300wm because of it's utility.