In the Ear? Really???

[snox801]

Never saw a hog until we went to collect my axis. They had just arrived to make a meal out of it.

Sorry I will only do COD on my pig order. You know with all the internet fraud and what not.

 

[Packrat 6]

You know Snox, that is really unsporting of you. I mean if you can't trust the Packrat, who can you trust!.....

Packrat

 

[Packrat 6]

The following was copied from "Are Hogs Really Dangerous" posted by J E Custom down the list on the Hog forum. The entire thread is worth reading, cause there are some good warnings in there, but since I have posted so many stories about my brother on this thread, and a little short on time today, thought I'd just re-post it.

Besides I can't seem to get djones or Coy Franks to come back right now. Anyway if you haven't read it, I always enjoy the story and even now I laugh when I re-read it cause it actually happened, even though John refuses to acknowledge the facts of the story. Hope you enjoy it, if not, well, maybe next time.

In SW Texas, we shoot from a big blind about 10' in the airover baited and fermented corn,, and the fun comes in after we've fired our burst into the herd and have to go down and see what we got, wounded or didn't hit. From the first shot, they are scattering and headed out at a what seems like lightspeed, so wounded hogs usually come while they are scattering and on second shots.
If you've ever had to track a wounded hog, (Usually my cousin's, and we'd love to quit inviting him, but he usually brings a truckload of steaks and beer and does most of the cooking, He just can't shoot for ****, and cold cereal gets old fast) into the Texas brush, maybe you'll understand why I put on tight ¼" polished leather chaps, (couldn't find a suit of armor that fit) unpack the Springfield M1A with a 20 round detachable magazine over iron sights before I go into the brush, and John, my next oldest brother usually backs me up with a 12 Gauge auto with slugs or double ought buckshot. If I could get my hands on a machine gun I would gladly take it instead. Trust me, it's guaranteed to tighten your pucker strings to the point that you can't pass gas for a week. The visibility in usually not more than about 10-20 feet and they can be fast and some of them seem to try and ambush you.

Once took out two, wounded sow must have been in heat, boar wouldn't leave her and attacked. Kind of reminded me of my old bar hopping days! Very glad I had excess rounds that day without having to reload. If you haven't figured it out, I'm no purist. Overkill is good when your butt's on the line and a semi-auto with 20 rounds of 168 gr .308 is not always overkill. As a last resort, the M1A is also heavy enough that I can beat the hog to death if necessary.

Once got attacked by a 8-10 pound piglet. Following a very light, indistinct blood trail and trapped him up against a thicket. Little sucker charged back towards us and I saw he had only been clipped across the withers, so stepped aside and let him go by. My brother was facing backwards, covering my six, had no idea what was happening and the little guy went right through his legs brushing up against one pant leg. The shotgun launched a solid slug into the air, John's eyes got about the size of a Turkey platter and I convulsed with laughter. I was laughing so hard I had to sit down and he got PO'd from me not being able to tell him what had happened. He never did see the Piglet. To this day, he swears he didn't crap his pants, but you could have heard the yell 3 counties over and I stayed upwind going back to the lodge, where he disappeared for about 15 minutes. If a momma hog had appeared when I was laughing, today I would be hog poop!

Anyway, yeah, they are dangerous and especially when wounded. Have pumped 3-308 slugs into a hogs head and it kept running for about 50 yards. Most go down with the first round, but we don't often have the advantage of shooting from 100 yards, usually much closer and the visibility sucks. BUT, wouldn't trade it for any other hunting, period!

Packrat

 

[Packrat 6]

A brief note on the story above. On about my 4th or 5th trip down to the ranch, we were tracking a wounded boar into the brush and the when he charged, I fired 3 - 4 rounds point blank at a range of about 8-10' after he tried to ambush us. When he finally stopped, he was up against my feet, even though I was back peddling.

On my way home, I stopped at a Leather fabricator's shop in San Antonio and had the chaps made. They snap up the inside of the legs and fit tight since this is what the fabricator suggested. As I recall, they cost me about $280.00, but have always been worth it.

I recently acquired a pair of Husquarvarna (I know I mispelled it) Chain Saw pants, but haven't been able to use them yet, but they will stop a running chain saw blade to a dead stop, so they should stop a hog slash and are a lot more flexible and comfortable than the chaps. Got them off Amazon for about $80.00. Hope I never have to let you know how they work.

Just a thought if you ever have to go in after them.

Packrat

 

[Coy Franks]

Packrat,

If you hunted hogs like I do you would not need to waste money on fancy pants. Shoot em once and if they don't give it up run over em with the pickup! Cheaper and it reloads quick (reverse)! Besides I'm not going to give up my cool breeze for no stinking hog. Well maybe I've shot a few more than once.

Several years ago I was out doing my chores just about daylight in the middle of the summer and happened to look up in my west field and noticed I had a calf walking to the hiway. I live almost a mile from the hardtop so I got in my pickup and started up in the field. I had to stop and open the gate in front of the house and noticed the calf had heard me and started running for the brush. Good deal, so I turned on the turning row and drove parallel with him to the fence. He was going to beat me a little but that was OK I was not in any hurry anyway. As I got closer it became apparent that it was a huge hog and not a calf. I poured the coals on. I got outrun! I certainly was not going to broadside a 300 plus hog anyway but that was the biggest hog I have ever seen, even up to now.
Next morning up early again looking west for the hog. No deal. But the following morning he was there but a little closer to the brush. I had my rifle in the pickup so I jumped in and started after him. I had to stop and open the gate again. I got outrun!!! He heard me crank up and got a head start.
Now it was a contest. Up early the following morning but this time the gate was already down and the pickup door open and she's already in four wheel drive. My old pickup has basically a hot rod engine with headers, cam, high compression pistons, bigger heads etc.,etc., so two wheel drive is a joke. I cranked up and slammed her in drive and the dust boiled as I blasted off. It paid off! My experience with herding hogs is they don't herd very will at all. When they make up their mind where they are going that's where they are going. They don't veer off course much at all. So, I slammed on the brakes and he shot across my bow running wide open. I waited till he got about 60 yards to my left and placed an Nosler 125gr right in his gonads. He screamed (I would have too) and humped up but still ran at half throttle. I still had a little over a quarter mile of field left before he got to the fence so I hammered my pickup and passed him and set up in front of him again. At about a hundred yards from me he stopped, sat down and started squealing.
Biggest hog I have ever killed. Over 300 easy. I saved his head (stuck it on a T-post in the fence) for my old college room-mate. He had nice cutters for this part of the world anyway, I don't know what he did with him.

 

[Packrat 6]

Yeah, Coy, but you're not hunting them on the ground at 20', in heavy brush. Guess I could modify my brothers Harley to run em down with but afraid the darn branches across the paths would scoot me off the seat before I could get close enough to do them any damage.

The longest shot we have EVER been able to make in the brush is about 100 yards unless we are on a tenants farm along the field edge and the brush usually lines the edges of the fields. Longest shot we have ever needed to make at hogs period, is probably 150 - 200 yards, even out in the open. They just don't get very far into the fields from the brush. But then again, to be fair, we've mainly hunted them during the day and are just getting into the night hunting.

The only time I wear the fancy Chaps or will wear these new 5 layer Kevlar britches is when I have to go into the brush after my cousin Bob has wounded one with his piddly .270, which I have told him that the next wounded hog is either his to chase down or bring a bigger rifle. He hits them, just doesn't have the penetration on the bullet he needs to get inside and do some damage.

C'mon down to the Hill country some time and I'll show you some real pucker factor when you don't have a souped up truck and just a few feet distance between them and you! Bring extra Britches and underwear.

On the other hand, would love to be able to unlimber the Super Match and go after something out there about 4-600 yards. I had that range wired at one time, and after my eye surgery will probably have to relearn it all over again, but there's a heap of difference in shooting an NRA mid range course and hunting hogs at long range.

BTW, we are both violating the rules of the thread set by djones....No pic, no hog!....

Oh well, he claims you're his Sensei (That means he's trying to flatter you into not out shooting him) and can get away with it and to him I'm just anther Hemorrhoid irritating him and preparation H won't work on me....ROFL

Anyway, thanks for the story, but sure would have liked to have seen that pig! Sure you weren't a fisherman before you started farming...The hog gets bigger with every telling?....

Packrat

 

[Coy Franks]

It took three grown men to put it in the back of the pickup. I raised hogs for 20 years. I'm sure I got within 25 pounds.

 

[Packrat 6]

Darn, Coy, didn't realize you were going to answer right back so I shut down on LRH and went over to the Springfield forum to see what rabble rousing I could do over there. Did't get a chance to answer anyone or even post, but it killed some time.

I woke up yesterday morning with nothing to do and by time I posted to you, had most of it finished!

I wasn't questioning the size of the hog, just wondering if the story had grown in the telling......................

I once was fishing the Cowlitz River in Washington and hooked into a BIG Salmon that I fought up and down the river bank for about 5 hours. Fish was so big, when I slid it up on the sand bar, the river level dropped 6". Didn't have a big enough scale to weigh the fish so just weighed the shadow and it went 25 pounds by itself. Unfortunately, fish was past it's prime and was turning rose colored so released it back into the river and almost swamped several people downstream when the water level surged back up....

Packrat

 

[Packrat 6]

Coy,
I re-read your post and here is what I have derived from it:

Coy hunting -
1 truck with hot rod engine - Approximately $3500.00 if as old as you say.
Repairs, tune-ups, Fuel and Misc relating to truck - $600.00 per year.
Rifle in truck and Ammo - $1000.00 Approximate
Replace tires every 4 Months - $880.00 as a guess
300 Acre field to chase hogs @ $1000.00 per Acre = $300,000.00 (Guessed on cost per acre)

Total investment - about $600.00 per hog

Packrat Hunting -
1 Springfield M1A - $899.00 (Original Price) Now fully amortized.
2 boxes of Remington 168 Gr .308 - $60.00 - direct Cost deductable
1 pair of Kevlar pants - $80.00 - Amortized over 5 years
Change of underwear - $5.00 Direct cost deductable
Toilet paper relating to above item - $1.50........Nothing but the best for me!
Travel Expenses - About $300.00 per trip x 3-5 per year = $900.00 - $1500.00 Direct write off.
Ranch and tenants land to hunt on - Free!
Incorporation of Exterminating company - $2200.00 so everything above is amortized or direct cost.

Income per year for exterminating hogs and maintaining ranch + $ 28,000.00 (Varies, but this is in a BAD year)

Total investment - about ($ - 400.00) per hog

Sooooo...It seems evident to me that you need to set up a Family owned Exterminating company so you can write off or amortize all your Hog related expenses as "Pest Control", including new firearms as desired. The farm pays the exterminating company which operates at a loss because of family employee's = Tax Write off! If set up as a Family Subchapter "S" Corp, all yearly losses accrue to the family members rather than the Corporation, reducing their taxes. Not only that, but a NEW truck is a amortized write off! And doesn't it look nice!


BUT, before doing this, check up with an Attorney to see how to structure it the best way for you and yours.


I knew 2 Bachelors degree's and an MBA would eventually come in handy sometime!....
Packrat

 

[Packrat 6]

Coy,

Just thought of something. When we accidentally ended up as partial owners of the ranch, which has now been revoked, we got in trouble with the IRS, so make sure you check with an accountant also!

Packrat

 

[Packrat 6]

Since we didn't write these recipes, they often refer to basics that aren't explained in the recipe itself. I was going to post the Taco Recipe we use, but the directions referred back to this preparation before starting the Taco recipe. Remember, we don't write them and most of them come from Texas, but we do try them. Suggest you cut and paste into word or other word processing program to save any of these.

Simple Smoked Shoulder

My favorite way to cook wild pig or boar is by slow roasting or slow smoking the shoulders, allowing the heat do all the work. It beats the tedious task of boning, trimming and chopping into usable chunks of meat. If you don't have access to a smoker, use any grill with meat as far away from the heat source as possible. Drop a few wood chunks onto the coals or in a pan above the heat source before adding the pig. Larger bone-in cuts will require more time to reach the tender stage. If, after several hours, you check it and it's still not tender, keep cooking. It'll get there eventually. As long as I'm smoking one shoulder, I usually smoke several and freeze the pulled meat for another time.

Step 1. The Rub
Remove any excess fat from the shoulder. Season liberally with salt and pepper and, if desired, a little brown sugar for added sweetness or some cayenne pepper for heat. I use 4 parts Hi Mountain Garlic Pepper Rub and 1 part light brown sugar. The exact amount of seasoning isn't critical. Rub it in, wrap the shoulder in plastic wrap and refrigerate for several hours. If your shoulders are boneless, make sure to season all the cracks and crevices before wrapping with plastic. I usually tie the boneless shoulders with butcher string so that it will cook more evenly.

Step 2. The Cooking Part
Place in a 250 degree smoker for 6 to 8 hours, depending on the size of the shoulder. Cook until the internal temperature is 185 degrees.

STEP 3 – Make it Tender
Remove the meat and place in the center of a large piece of heavy-duty foil ("standard" weight foil will always tear apart). Pour your favorite barbecue sauce over the meat, about a cup or two. Wrap snugly in foil and return the meat to the heat for 2 more hours.

STEP 4 – Shred
Allow to cool and then shred meat with tongs or forks. Pile high in a soft bun and top with coleslaw, at least that's the Southern way!

NOTE: If I wanted Vegetables with my pork sandwich, would have them on the side, not on my sandwich! - Packrat

Now again for those of you that don't have Wild Hog available, there is a ranch in Texas that processes only wild hog meat. Fairly expensive, but will post their prices and contact information later in the thread if I don't do something to get me thrown off first!

BTW, for those that haven't caught on yet, when I'm posting the little Packrat emitecon, I'm kidding around with someone or just throwing out absurdities. When I just sign "Packrat", I'm serious. I do slip up once in a while but generally that's the way it goes.

Packrat

 

[Packrat 6]

Today will be a day or mourning for me. I finally lost a true and faithful companion of 14 years that has been my constant companion, almost 24/7 since first making its acquaintance. That's right, my Cell Phone finally died for good.

Through thick and thin, referring to more than my waist, it has been there on my belt, always ready to do what it does best....Make and receive Phone calls. Nothing more, nothing less. Attempts to revive it were fruitless, new batteries, new case, an emergency trip to the Sprint repair center, nothing helped. It has gone to wherever old cell phones go.

When I called the company that actually owned it, but had issued it to me initially, and which keeps me on as a consultant, the conversation went something like this:

"Hello, CDB, IT department, This is Marcie, Senior administrator, How can I help you?"

"Hi, this is Packrat and my cell phone finally died on me and wondered if you wanted it returned, and wondered if you wanted to replace it."

" OK, Mr. Packrat just let me check the records here.........OMG, that is one of the original Model X- 1's that we phased out 12 years ago, I didn't know we still had any on our books. How about if I send you one of our latest models to replace it, I can have it there in 2 days. Our new model, can send and receive phone calls, display and allow response to emails, can show Facebook contacts, tweet's, twerps and just about everything a computer can do, including it can shuffle and deal cards if you're on a airliner or other wise bored."

"No thanks, I just want a plain old Cell Phone that answers and sends Phone calls.....Nothing more, Nothing less!"

"Sir, I'm not sure that we have anything like that, All of our new phones are designed to keep you in contact by any form of communication that you could possibly want."

"Marcie, please check your inventory and see what you have on hand. I don't want to be in contact, 24/7, just want to be able to send and receive phone calls."

" OK, stand by for a minute........Long Pause........Then, Sir, we do have one new model X-1 still on the shelves because no one wanted it and we were preparing to donate it to the Museum of Science and Industry here in D.C. as an antique, but if you insist, I will have to get someone higher than me to approve the issuance. Please stand by for a minute......Long Pause.......... Sir, Mark, the president, said to give it to you as a gift and told me to call Sprint and have the number transferred, but if you'll pardon me sir, but somehow this seems kind of.....Ummm.......errrr....un-american, if you'll pardon me for saying so."

"OK, that's all I need right now, and thank you..." the discussion continued a little past this confirming where to send it, etc. then I hung up.

At or about 2:00 today, will have a memorial service at which I will be the sole attendee. Have already figured the epitaph for my phone and am having it inscribed on a flat rock I found down by the river.

Under this stone, lies my old telephone,
It's ringer will never more ring,
Wasn't fancy at all, but made and got calls,
and beat the hell out of two cans and a string!


Packrat

 

[djones]

pak,
you probably got 14 years out of the phone because you're always on the computer! how many keyboards do you go through in a year?

i guess i need to turn some attention to my 2 hogs/month quota but i'm semi retired right now. will address the matter later.

dj

 

[Packrat 6]

Present keyboard is 3 years old and the "O" key is starting to act up. Have to hit it twice to get it to print out.

Activity on the computer is absolutely nothing compared to what I had to do when I was working, but Programs were so specialized for Estimating and a very specialized accounting program based on our European masters (Owners), I had to learn how to use most of the normal, i.e. Microsoft, programs after I retired. Oh, knew Word and Excel, but the Germans don't think like Americans when it comes to accounting.

Example: Take a $40,000,000.00 Construction contract, project it out over 2 years, including scheduling to the exact day, and then for gods sake, don't get either ahead or behind schedule because it ruined all their projections for income for the entire year!.......Projected income became more important than actual income or profit potential..........Royal PIA and why I retired when I did, aside from them hiring total idiots without any construction background to run the operations. They hired Bean Counters (accountants) to run construction offices and their income dropped from close to half a billion per year to about a quarter billion. Then when they started trying to blame the Construction Managers, the CFO from Germany came in and started ranting, 3 of us got up and walked out halfway through his rant. He about ****, totally unheard of in Germany, but here, we don't put up with that crap!

Was really, really surprised they hired me back as a consultant.

Anyway, did you read the recipes?.....People actually do eat Feral hog! Wait til you see what they charge per pound for wild hog, processed, you'll find you are in the wrong business. See my next post!

Packrat