Wind turbines hands down kills more raptors.
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I’m Convinced. No Lead Bullets for Game
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I see your point in the "off switch". However I would prefer to minimize the meat loss - for example, the scapula has really good meat (to make osso bucco, smoke, etc.), plus the risk of creating a fractured bone mess at the end of the back loin and neck muscles
sdakotaguy
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My alternative for the brachial plexus shot has been head shots or base of the neck. Only employ the alternative when in tall cover & only the head & neck is offered.
Try some Hammer Hunters. They will change your mind
xsn10s
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Windmills certainly do kill a bunch of raptors, looks like around 83,000 per year. But 73 million "birds" die each year from pesticide poisoning. So I wouldn't be surprised at all that pesticides kill more raptors than windmills for now. Until they build more windmills.
The number of birds that we use to have around our home out in country has diminished quite a bit such we have noticed. The local farms around us are environmentally certified through reduction of pesticides and herbicides. Still makes you wonder are we next...
MagnumManiac
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Without quoting any one individual, many points have been made for the switch to mono bullets.
I agree partially, for most LR hunting within say 800, a mono will perform, but beyond this, it is iffy as to correct expansion in my experience. I do not have tonnes of examples, a dozen or so with Barnes TTSX in 6.5, 7 & 30 cal to date.
For all of my LR/ELR hunting, I have and do use Nosler ABLR as no other bullet I have used has expanded at velocities below 1300fps like the ABLR does. In fact, it worked perfectly at 1088fps impact velocity.
The Barnes TSX, the first iteration, did not expand well out of my 25-06 @ 600 metres, I am still unsure why, only one petal expanded, the bullet tumbled and was found backwards facing in the paunch. Several other instances had similar outcomes and I gave away all left over boxes.
The TTSX doesn't have these issues and I have gravitated to using the LRX in my 300RUM & 6.5x47, tried the LRX in my 264WM custom, but it didn't like them.
If push came to shove for hunting here, the Barnes would be my choice followed by Cutting Edge, which I have not yet hunted with, but use them for ELR 2000 metre comp.
Cheers.
I agree partially, for most LR hunting within say 800, a mono will perform, but beyond this, it is iffy as to correct expansion in my experience. I do not have tonnes of examples, a dozen or so with Barnes TTSX in 6.5, 7 & 30 cal to date.
For all of my LR/ELR hunting, I have and do use Nosler ABLR as no other bullet I have used has expanded at velocities below 1300fps like the ABLR does. In fact, it worked perfectly at 1088fps impact velocity.
The Barnes TSX, the first iteration, did not expand well out of my 25-06 @ 600 metres, I am still unsure why, only one petal expanded, the bullet tumbled and was found backwards facing in the paunch. Several other instances had similar outcomes and I gave away all left over boxes.
The TTSX doesn't have these issues and I have gravitated to using the LRX in my 300RUM & 6.5x47, tried the LRX in my 264WM custom, but it didn't like them.
If push came to shove for hunting here, the Barnes would be my choice followed by Cutting Edge, which I have not yet hunted with, but use them for ELR 2000 metre comp.
Cheers.
xsn10s
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Oh heck I'm surprised I made it to 21. I just find it ridiculous to make lead bullets the focal point for raptor deaths when there are oblivious greater causes in my mind. It's like the lefties screaming more gun control because 30k people die each year from all firearms related deaths. Yet they support abortions which have killed close to a million fetuses (babies) per year in the US since the 70's.
sdakotaguy
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Ok, lets get rid of wind mills, farm chemicals. Farm chemicals that are destroying the soil & the health of all who depend on the produce to be yielded from that contaminated soil. Now can we out law bird flu as well - or have immune systems been compromised by something mentioned above; Allowing Bird flu to be as significant as it has been?
xsn10s
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I'd settle with keeping the pesticides, oil wells, wind/ solar plants, farm chemicals, and lead bullets. I'd rather just see sensible/ feasible use of them. I'm done with this thread. I've been dry firing my Glock while involving myself with subject. The .25 cent smooth and tune is finished. Dry firing has it well settled in and ready for training lol.
memtb
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Ya scared me just now……I thought this thread had pushed you over the edge!
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