Whats the cartridge you LOVE to HATE?

I'm working on a Styer M95 Mannlicher Carbine (8x50 mm) right now. I've had it over 50 years, it's been in the family for a 100 or more. Until 2 weeks ago, it just sat in the safe…..got a "wild hair" to look for components (ammo non-existent), and get the bore cleaned up. The bore initially looked like a dirty sewer line, and after 2 weeks of soak/scrub repeat…..it's looking much better! memtb
Now is yours the 8x50R French Lebel or is it the 8x56R? The reason I ask is because my friend bought one about 8-10 years ago when they were selling them for under $100.00 around here. I helped him locate everything for loading it and we loaded up a bunch of the ammo for it. Grafs is who I went with to get the components for it. When I slugged the bore I also remember it being .330" and not the .318 or .323 that the Germans used in the 8x57
I believe Hornady does or did make factory loaded ammo.
I can tell you one thing though, that thing thumped my shoulder pretty hard with that metal butt plate.
 
I've decided that a creedmoor is really all a man needs.

Got a 22-250? replace it with a 22 creedmoor.
243 win? --> buy a 6mm creedmoor
257 bob? sell that sucker and get a 25 creedmoor
260 rem? hahaha you know the answer to that one!
270 win? well, hmmm maybe you got me there, I'm sure some one is working on it though!
7mm-08? there's a wildcat 7mm creedmoor for that!
308 win? --> 7.6 creedmoor of course! (don't tell me it doesn't exist)

A creedmoor is all you need...
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
The 7.6 Creedmoor is actually called the 30 TC (Thompson Center). It was a flop because it didn't have the velocity that the 308Win had. It was all but dead until they necked it down to .264".
 
30-06. Heard so many kids when I was growing up and even now that had to get a 30-06 to hunt deer just like their dad. It's like you have to have a 30-06 to be a man. Saw fathers give their young son a 30-06 at the range and after they shot it, they didn't want to shoot anymore.
Also all the Creedmoors. Hornady just copied all past good cartridges.

Love too many cartridges to list.

Ah yes the 30-06. Nothin like teaching your youngin to shoot while giving them a flinch that will last decades in the process. Lol
 
Now is yours the 8x50R French Lebel or is it the 8x56R? The reason I ask is because my friend bought one about 8-10 years ago when they were selling them for under $100.00 around here. I helped him locate everything for loading it and we loaded up a bunch of the ammo for it. Grafs is who I went with to get the components for it. When I slugged the bore I also remember it being .330" and not the .318 or .323 that the Germans used in the 8x57
I believe Hornady does or did make factory loaded ammo.
I can tell you one thing though, that thing thumped my shoulder pretty hard with that metal butt plate.

This is the 8x50 R Mannlicher(I think) …a different animal than the French Lebel. Many of the 8x50 R Mannlicher rifles were rechambered for the 8x56mm in the '30's. I'm pretty certain that mine is in the original 8x50 mm R…..supposedly the rechambered rifles have an S or a H stamped on the receiver…..I have neither!

It's my understanding that I can buy 8x56 brass, run it through the 8x50 dies and then trim to length.

The bore is slowly cleaning up, but is still dark stained with many tiny spots. I presume these tiny spots to be surface rust…not sure!

I hope that the bullets my friend located (will look at them on the 13th) are as he remembered…..the price is right.

I wish I had access to a Smith to verify what I actually do have! 🤬 memtb
 
No that's a 300wm. The only caliber that's worthy enough to kill todays modern elk wearing level 4 body armor… anything less is just plain irresponsible..
Man you are mistaken, that 6.5 crapmore is more power full than that 300wm. It will kill 3 generations of African elephants in Tanzania with one shot and you don't even have to leave the US because it's so flat shooting. Its case design creates a vortex like a jet engine that sends the bullet down the barrel and Mach 8. It's so powerful you can miss close and still kill an elk just from its pressure wave.
The only 30 cal worth having is a 300BS. The 220gr bullet is used by some special forces as an anti tank round. Put a suppressor on it and you can kill 10 tanks without the others even knowing you are there.



*sarcasm just incase you couldn't tell
 
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No that's a 300wm. The only caliber that's worthy enough to kill todays modern elk wearing level 4 body armor… anything less is just plain irresponsible..
I was thinking I had to upgrade my .300wm as we have all heard the 6.5cm has better ballistics.

But wait, perhaps I should buy something in a PRC variant as Belted cases are no longer any good.

It's only a matter of time until the replace the classic .375H&H with a new super duper wildcat come legitimate.375prc. Move over .338lapua and .50BMG there's a new sniper round that doesn't just fill the gap it makes these existing rounds redundant because it has PRC on the headstamp. Faster, Flatter, Fatter, better
 
I was thinking I had to upgrade my .300wm as we have all heard the 6.5cm has better ballistics.

But wait, perhaps I should buy something in a PRC variant as Belted cases are no longer any good.

It's only a matter of time until the replace the classic .375H&H with a new super duper wildcat come legitimate.375prc. Move over .338lapua and .50BMG there's a new sniper round that doesn't just fill the gap it makes these existing rounds redundant because it has PRC on the headstamp. Faster, Flatter, Fatter, better

This should quite a "shoot out" (see what I did there) to determine which will be the "parent case" for these new rounds. Will it be the "Creede" which has superior engineering in every aspect, however, the PRC has greater case capacity. So…..can the "Creede" hype alone surpass the extra powder capacity of the PRC? 😉 memtb
 

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