Hello, been a longtime lurker on Long Range Hunting and you guys have helped me a lot but I decided to post here as I couldn't find a thread to answer my question.
I have been looking to start building a sort of all purpose hunting/mountain rifle and I wanted to make sure it was light enough for the sheep or elk hunts I have planned in the mountains. Long story short, what I thought would be the bees knees of all around hunting/mountain rifles came in at an estimated 187.5 oz (11.53 lbs) with scope. While this would be fine for regular whitetail hunting it seems that I'm about 2.5lbs heavy for an ideal rifle. How do you all typically spec out a rifle you are planning to carry in the mountains? I thought I was building a 7-8 lbs rifle but I was mistaken. Below is the build I had thought was going to be great with weight of parts. Also, a '*' indicates an weight I estimated. I have no problems throwing the entire build out if I am just completely off track from where I should be in building a mountain rifle with the exception of caliber, I'm pretty sure I want a 280A.I. Where am I going wrong on getting the rifle lighter? Thank you in advance for looking and giving your advise.
My original planned build:
- Remington 700 long action receiver trued by NSS (39oz*)
- Timney 3.5lbs trigger w/ safety (0oz added when replacing original)
- Sin Arms fluted bolt service (-1oz*)
- M5 Stealth LA flush bottom metal (7.5oz* added when replacing original)
- Magpul PMAG 5 AC-L magazine (2.8oz)
- Criterion Remage heavy sporter barrel in 280A.I. (54oz)
- Barrel fluting from NSS (-6oz*)
- Barrel muzzle threading (-1oz*)
- NSS Remage precision recoil lug (1oz*)
- NSS squared and trued barrel nut (3oz*)
- APA Micro Bastard Muzzle break (1.8oz)
- Manners MCS-TA full carbon fiber stock (44.8oz)
- Manners flush cups (x2), sling studs (x3), 9/16" pillars (3oz*)
- Nightforce SHV F1 4-14x44mm scope (30oz)
- Iota Outdoors Triad 30mm medium scope rings (3oz)
- Butler Creek flip-up scope covers (2oz*)
I see a lot of areas for improvement here when considering a light mountain hunting rifle.
First I would ditch the idea of a Timney trigger. Waste of money. Pretty much every other trigger on the market is better than Timney.
Trigger Tech makes a great trigger, Jewell is always good, and Bix'n Andy now makes the TacSport line which is designed for hunting/tactical rifle applications.
Don't worry about fluting your bolt. Doesnt save much weight at all. Really just an extra expense that isn't needed and it weakens the bolt handle.
Scratch the idea of a M5 DBM and just use regular BDL floor plate. Will save you a lot of weight and still be able to fit four 280 AI cases in the magazine. Don't have to worry about losing a magazine while hiking either.
Scratch the heavy Manners stock and go with a McMillan Hunters edge, or my personal favorite, the AG Composites CAT 700 all carbon fiber sporter stock. The AG long action CAT 700 weighs 22 oz. including butt pad and swivel studs. No long waits like McMillan and better color options. CAT 700 is readily available and AG composites has the best warranty in the business. They are hands down the best people I have ever dealt with. They re-painted my stock for free just because I wore a little paint off the butt while hiking with the rifle in the mountains over a period of 3 years. Couldnt believe that kind of service on normal wear and tear! Wouldn't even take the money I offered them for return shipping!
Next, if you are willing to pay for it, get a Proof Carbon fiber "Light Sendero" contour barrel that finishes at 24". Will be a lot lighter than what you had planned. Also forget about the Remage style barrel unless you plan on pulling and changing barrels on it. The nut is just extra weight.
Look at different scope options too. Theres a lot of good scopes out there that can provide a wider magnification range with just as good or better glass than the NF SHV for less money, all the while weighing up to 1/2 lb less (8 oz.)
Butler Creek scope caps SUCK! Lol. Vortex is making some nice ones now for $20 each. They lock up solid when closed and lay all the way flat when open to provide an unobstructed view. Well worth the $40 a pair and won't have to deal with the headache of Butler caps not staying closed.
That's my 2 cents anyhow. Take it how you like. Best of luck with your new build. Sounds like it will be a lot of fun