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Let's talk about 2 mile cartridges

Our 375 HE fired cases end up 3.31" long, we made reamer to

allow that and holds 195 gr H2. With A light 300 grain flat base bullet

we can load 200gr of dense ball powder compressed, using a

chamber with decent freebore . About 67k, 34'' bbl.

Quickload check anyone. Ed..
 
I am running the 338-408 at 141.5 gr of 50 bmg so 185-190 so that would be what I said 40-50 gr more right?
 
I am running the 338-408 at 141.5 gr of 50 bmg so 185-190 so that would be what I said 40-50 gr more right?



I see what you were comparing to, my mistake,
Your powder charge vs case water capacity of the other case ........ a big difference

The 375 HE h20 capacity is 186 gr to neck shoulder junction and even with bullet seated to base of neck you'd still have the long boat tail in the case affecting powder space, so usable case capacity is about 180- 182 gr h20 .... now transpose all that into powder and your load would be around 165- 170 gr and we are back to the 30 gr difference .......

and I was making a comparison to the 375 CT ,

The difference is even less with the 375 Snipe Tac, the case in photo below showing h20 capacity is a once fired, FL resized case at 3.020" with 170.3 gr h20, a 24.7 gr difference, basically you will have the 28 Nosler vs 7mm RUM and 338 Norma vs 338 Lapua effect where the shorter case is much more efficient and provides more velocity per gr of powder in a similar diameter case ....... although in this case there is a bigger capacity difference, so velocity will be higher ......

One of the several reasons I went to the shorter/fatter case with similar capacity, sort of the 300 WSM vs 300 Win Mag effect ...
 

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I notice you started with LRH on 12/10/16 but I can't tell where you are from - "Profile" only yields posting stats. Are you from Finland?

Frankly, I look at your posts and wonder why all the "can't get there from here" talk. People are trying to get there...and (topic of this thread) better cartridge designs will (IMO) vastly help make that ("there") happen. If you want to talk cartridges, stick around. If you want to start a "can't get there from here" thread, go for it. Thanks.

Hello

1. My location nor Nationality have no merit in regards to operational knowledge of ELR.
2. My forum join date has no relationship to knowledge of ELR.
3. Where in world did you get that I said anything about what "couldn't" be done..quiet the opposite I said specifically that I am NOT saying it cannot be done and that I know it is being done both CONUS and OCONUS..My points in the thread is that it has more to do with the "Indian" than it does with the "arrow" when we start talking 3000+ meters..especially when needing to make that shot "on demand" and in a timed event. My points in the thread are meant to open further conversation of what the shooting team must be consistent at doing in order to give themselves a larger error budget and still remain on target. I have also showed the internal and external ballistic data for reference of what it needs to be kept to in order to assist in getting a larger error budget.
Please feel free to expand, elaborate and/or debate my data and comments if you would like, instead of trying to say I said something I did not say.
4. No I am not trolling, I am sorry if anything come across like that as english is not my first or second language.

THEIS
 
One of the several reasons I went to the shorter/fatter case with similar capacity, sort of the 300 WSM vs 300 Win Mag effect ...

Hello

That is also why Jimmy designed the 338NM as he did. It gives us less pressure deviations in the shorter/fatter case so we can better control the MV. It also gives us a smoother recoil because it has a more fluid and consistent powder burn.

Longer/Skinnier case designs would benefit from utilizing cellulose detonator tubes in order to achieve the pressure stability the shorter/fatter cases provide us. IMO that is.

THEIS
 
Our longer case will still out run the others.

That means more energy per grain.

Run the load we listed so you know it isn't bull'.

Some one here must have quickload. Ed
 
Our longer case will still out run the others.

That means more energy per grain.

Run the load we listed so you know it isn't bull'.

Some one here must have quickload. Ed

My very conservative QL model shows an easy 3400fps with the parameters Ed gave.

I'll be running 330 to 350 pills until I can confirm stability of heavier bullets. Most of the time I shoot at sea level.
 
How we size and seat 375 HE, one simple die, a 1" die, no monster dies needed.
A die we can make with resize reamer from reamer guy, a regular die body,
then pass on to the next guy, those reamers can make a pile of dies.

I do primer work separate, not in the press. First with lock ring set, I size cases.

When coming back out of dies with case, we notice the case still well
centered, held straight, down as far as the length of the neck,

So we put washer or another lock ring on same thickness as neck length,
below original lock ring, screw down tight tight in press,

Dies had a 5/8 x 24 thread in top, had powder fill bushing and other stuff
with same thread, reamed out from bottom to set bullet height, with ram, case,
and bullet up, Start boattail bullet in case by hand, slide up in die, into holder,
raise ram to to top, bullet seated perfect.

These target bullets held in by strong neck tension, no crimping needed, and
notice bullet point gets no marks or dents, fast, easy, no 380-500 buck dies.

OVER 900 375 cases behind getting done. Nearly 600 in another bench.Ed
 

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Yep, a big gun, like Paul a big guy, he can win 2 mile

with that. Mitch's shop did great job... Ed
 
Our freebore checking/experimenting setup, where we used a throater to

make different length freebores in small increments to check bullet fit and

find out how far we could get bore rider bullets out of the powder space,

The bullet in the barrel is a 400gr MTAC with stupid seal band off, The

case behind is with same bullet in it at max length possible and still keep

bullet tight in the case, Its overall length is 5.05", can get 185gr dense ball

powder under it, settled and.compressed.

I'm telling all for absolute top speed, get bore riders,

load them out in longer freebore, so you can get speed without pressure

problems, as Manson, etc will give you any freebore on reamer you want.

If CEBs take off the band so you can use the freebore.

Other 600 cases behind need two more neck swage passes and deburring

and they are all necked, little polishing, photo perfect. Ed
 

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Hello,

Looking forward to reading and seeing more details of the new cartridges such as 375 Mercenary, 375 Hubel Express, 338 Mercenary, 375 Lethal, etc etc...


To save anyone some time and a complete act of futility I suggest do not even bother with T&E of BMG primers in those cases in an attempt to broaden propellant possibilities.....ESPECIALLY in XM cheytac brass (Yes I know that none of the cartridges above are built off XM cheytac brass but others could try to "copy" the Merc cartridges and utilize XM stamped brass).

THEIS
 

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WE already know what primer change we will go to if we can get

them imported, the Ginex 6.53-0.070 boxer primer, It holds 70%

more priming mixture than large rifle, but isn't a huge jump in diameter.. Ed
 
WE already know what primer change we will go to if we can get

them imported, the Ginex 6.53-0.070 boxer primer, It holds 70%

more priming mixture than large rifle, but isn't a huge jump in diameter.. Ed

.257-.259 is quite a bit larger than the standard magnum rifle (.210-.215).

http://www.ginex.com.ba/Images/PRIMER 6,53-0,70.pdf


Note that their spec says its for the 338 LM???

BTW, Graf has Ginex LRM primers in stock - https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/74063
 
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