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Yes I got a letter from him like that earlier in late summer, but had an importer
who wants to be anonymous, here in US , tell me it could be done when Ginex catches
up on supplying NATO and EU military needs, maybe next fall.He said someone here has to
work with exporting company there to get the red tape and paperwork setup.
As for specs it was something they did for Hans Grillmayer in EU for that case and his
416 Tyr, he has passed away, so nothing else was done. As for making it go in our case,
I already set up reamer deal here that can open pockets up real easy for that size.
The LRM primers are not any stronger than FED 215s, I wish they were.ED
who wants to be anonymous, here in US , tell me it could be done when Ginex catches
up on supplying NATO and EU military needs, maybe next fall.He said someone here has to
work with exporting company there to get the red tape and paperwork setup.
As for specs it was something they did for Hans Grillmayer in EU for that case and his
416 Tyr, he has passed away, so nothing else was done. As for making it go in our case,
I already set up reamer deal here that can open pockets up real easy for that size.
The LRM primers are not any stronger than FED 215s, I wish they were.ED
Hello,
We are in midst of scheduling testing and measuring of these primers as well as lots of others for ignition rate, ignition temperature, ignition rate consistency, temperature consistency, etc at RUAG in March.
We are hoping the "larger" Ginex primers will give us the data and figures we are hoping for.
As for the importation....correct the USA importer needs to provide Ginex or their export rep with appropriate USA Government paperwork in order to get export approval but Ginex minimum export order is half of shipping container.
THEIS
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Please translate that into USD, approximate. Thanks.
That is what importer said, got be a combo of orders from a large number
retailers and reloading companies, There is couple out west that sell
huge amounts of ammo using pistol, regular rifle, and large rifle Ginex primers but
We couldn't get them interested in getting the big ones added just yet.
We keep trying. You over there need to get some of our 585 HE cases
from Bertram, neck them to 375 HE, ream out pockets and test how they work. He has barrels
of them. Can you order direct from AUS.
Shipping container is half of a semi trailer box.
That why I asked other huge ammo companies, selling million rounds a week, using
large amounts, to add on to their orders, as a load is millions of dollars worth of primers. Ed
retailers and reloading companies, There is couple out west that sell
huge amounts of ammo using pistol, regular rifle, and large rifle Ginex primers but
We couldn't get them interested in getting the big ones added just yet.
We keep trying. You over there need to get some of our 585 HE cases
from Bertram, neck them to 375 HE, ream out pockets and test how they work. He has barrels
of them. Can you order direct from AUS.
Shipping container is half of a semi trailer box.
That why I asked other huge ammo companies, selling million rounds a week, using
large amounts, to add on to their orders, as a load is millions of dollars worth of primers. Ed
Hello,
Yes we can order direct from AUS but we are not ready for that yet. Once we get primers discussed, as well as other known ones along with some "new" ones tested we will make decision in regards to which primers make it to phase 2 of testing, in which that testing will be done in "live" brass cartridges and not our universal primer receiver. At that point we then open discussion of which cartridges we are wanting to conduct testing in.
THEIS
Here is the neck swage die setup, couple like this now.
A threaded die we put sleeve in to fit case, its top is threaded 7/8 x 14.
Bullet seating stems with these dies is same thread and we had a bunch.
They have 30 degree taper in them with hole, we redrill/reamed hole sizes
.020" increments, for last 5 stages, First sets are just 7/8 x 14 die parts with
30 degree chamfer we put on 6 of them. Matches case shoulder taper.
We have 6 more of big threaded dies if some want to get one to sleeve and
make neck swage, CH4 got those top stems to rework.
Folks got die parts to rework,Ed
A threaded die we put sleeve in to fit case, its top is threaded 7/8 x 14.
Bullet seating stems with these dies is same thread and we had a bunch.
They have 30 degree taper in them with hole, we redrill/reamed hole sizes
.020" increments, for last 5 stages, First sets are just 7/8 x 14 die parts with
30 degree chamfer we put on 6 of them. Matches case shoulder taper.
We have 6 more of big threaded dies if some want to get one to sleeve and
make neck swage, CH4 got those top stems to rework.
Folks got die parts to rework,Ed
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About the hydraulic forming die setup we made, for 375 HE,
Saves a lot of time and powder, and gets them to chamber size.
The cases we and others necked to 375 had kind of what is called
small love handles or donut, at the shoulder. If we tried holding it
all in at the shoulder, case too thick there when looked at
by sectioning case . Even when we sectioned them to check
after firing, But doing them in the hydraulic die, which is adjustable,
with debth changes in the die, we was able to get shoulder looking right, by stretching
out the donut, and shoulder forward, gained .020" length to shoulder, so
made our test gun chamber longer to match, leaving belt step in same place,
from base to shoulder to match, after firing, were better at the shoulder when sectioned,
IE looked better on the inside of case sides to shoulder corner,
and that is how we got the revision for reamer figured out best.
Then got all reamer prints at Manson, PTG, JGS, to match.
Case forming easier, proportions better, little more volume.
Our hydro die, we made adjustable base, made things lot easier.
In essence an adjustable chamber.. Ed
Saves a lot of time and powder, and gets them to chamber size.
The cases we and others necked to 375 had kind of what is called
small love handles or donut, at the shoulder. If we tried holding it
all in at the shoulder, case too thick there when looked at
by sectioning case . Even when we sectioned them to check
after firing, But doing them in the hydraulic die, which is adjustable,
with debth changes in the die, we was able to get shoulder looking right, by stretching
out the donut, and shoulder forward, gained .020" length to shoulder, so
made our test gun chamber longer to match, leaving belt step in same place,
from base to shoulder to match, after firing, were better at the shoulder when sectioned,
IE looked better on the inside of case sides to shoulder corner,
and that is how we got the revision for reamer figured out best.
Then got all reamer prints at Manson, PTG, JGS, to match.
Case forming easier, proportions better, little more volume.
Our hydro die, we made adjustable base, made things lot easier.
In essence an adjustable chamber.. Ed
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Check this out, a new real long range shoot planned for
this summer in Texas. Ed
Check this out, a new real long range shoot planned for
this summer in Texas. Ed
Hello,
We are not allowed social media accounts due to security reasons so can someone please ask them who the wind coach(es) are?
I think I have a pretty good idea but just wanting confirmation.
Also---for anyone that has not been to that part of Texas in July...bring your sunscreen, cool long sleeve shirts and caps. Environmental temps are going to be high so please keep that in mind when finalizing your load for the shoot. Showing up with load that is borderline your "pressure" loads could end up causing a lot of frustration on yourself.
THEIS
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The first I will finish is the 375 but after than?? Barrels are not that expensive.
