In the Ear? Really???

[Packrat 6]

BTW, Reference the picture, is that called badgering the Coyotes?.......LOL

OK, so that was a bad pun, but it's late and I'm tired and the only slack you've ever given me was your offer of a little in the rope of a noose!

Packrat

 

[Packrat 6]

Well, it looks like the Packrats are going to be famous. Well, not necessarily famous, but just saw our ad we did several months ago for KIA on TV last night where we masqueraded as Hamsters! Might have been playing for a while, but since I don't watch TV, was the first time I've seen it............$$$$$$$$$$.....

Quote, Coy Franks:Who knows. Sometimes you kill the bear and sometimes the bear kills you!

Coy, you're getting as bad as djones. How many times do I have to remind you guys that this is the HOG FORUM!......Jeeeeezzzz.....Next thing you'll be bringing pictures of Rabbits, Coyotes and Badgers on this thread....

You know Coy, I've always expected better of you than djones who has about as much class as a dead frog on a freeway, commonly referred to as a "Sail Frog" since it can be flown somewhat like a Frisbee! Heck he's worn his suit so long, it's come back into style 4 times.

GTG....BBL

Packrat

 

[scrmblr1982cj8]

Packrat,

One of the guys I work with hung a bow stand about 30 yards from a Boss Buck feeder last year after deer season. He put a rechargeable green light on the bottom of the feeder. He said it took about a week before the hogs got comfortable with the light. He took several hogs at night with the bow before he had to quit due to his busy schedule.

I'm willing to try a green light over hog bait, but I'd like to find a good solar rechargeable unit. Any thoughts?

 

[Packrat 6]

Packrat,

One of the guys I work with hung a bow stand about 30 yards from a Boss Buck feeder last year after deer season. He put a rechargeable green light on the bottom of the feeder. He said it took about a week before the hogs got comfortable with the light. He took several hogs at night with the bow before he had to quit due to his busy schedule.

I'm willing to try a green light over hog bait, but I'd like to find a good solar rechargeable unit. Any thoughts?

Scrmblr,

Stand by, I've got some time this afternoon and will do a little research. djones stated in his post that it should have green LED lights so will try and pursue that line of thought, plus Solar. I've been wondering if you posted either a green, Red or IV light over a feeder, if they would acclimate to it.

On a slightly different subject, my brother and I tried to get above the hogs since they seem to mostly run in a opposite direction than the gunshot,but that may be due to where we hunt, there are limited egress areas out of the feeder area, so shooting at them from above does seem feasible. Our experience turned out to be a fiasco, but not that the concept was wrong, just the situation that developed....I told the story earlier in the thread. Actually might suggest a crossbow for quiet, however a bow IS faster for follow up shots.

Check back later tonight!

Packrat

 

[Coy Franks]

Packrat said;

"You know Coy, I've always expected better of you than djones"

Birds of a feather flock together. Its my influence on djones that makes him such a wonderful person./s

scrmblr1982cj8 - I have a feeder with red LED lights that come on every night. We use it to bow hunt off of and the hogs don't seem to pay it any mind. But it always comes on every night and that is why. I think white would work just as well for the same reason.

 

[Packrat 6]

scrmblr
The following item I found on Ebay and seems to fit your requirements plus isn't extremely expensive to try. One of the considerations was the 15 1/2' Solar panel connecting wire, which some of the others only had 6' connecting wires. This is a 30 LED light and they do have the 40 LED lights, but are currently out of stock. You may want to hold off until they come back into stock and see if it would work better.

to locate, type "Green Solar LED Light" into the search function at the top of the Ebay home page.


Solar Power 30/40 LED Ultra Bright Spotlight Waterproof Flood Light
Features:
Brand new and high quality
No electricity required.
Powered by sunlight during daytime.
High efficiency solar panel.
Super bright long life LEDs.
Easy installation.
Switch for manual on/off.
Turns on at dusk and off at dawn automatically - Photo cell operated.

Specification:
30 high output, bright but energy efficient LED's, LED's have 100,000 hours lifespan.
5volt 2watt glass covered solar panel, Size .
Light is constructed of heavy duty cast aluminium with toughened glass cover.
Can be switched manually with on/off switch or set to turn on automatically at sunset every night.
Safe and water resistant.
Batteries: 3 X 1.2V, 2000 mah, Ni-MH.
Length of wire cable: 5 m
Weight: 1100g
Panel Size: 193 x 160 x 30 mm/7.68 x 6.30 x 1.18 inch
Light Size: 135 x 95 x 92 mm/5.32 x 3.74 x 3.62 inch

LED Colors: White, Yellow, Green

Note:Charge the battery for at least 8 hours before first using. Please press the blue button to "on" position before use.

US $31.79 + 20% Packrat Finders fee...................................

Packrat

 

[Packrat 6]

Packrat said;

"You know Coy, I've always expected better of you than djones"

Birds of a feather flock together. Its my influence on djones that makes him such a wonderful person.

OMG, coy, I would have never suspected that you were flocking around with djones!

All this time I thought you just felt sorry for him and let him tag along.....

If it has been your influence that makes him what he is, I've been hassling the wrong person all this time!

Packrat

 

[Packrat 6]

That's some funny stuff there packrat. You're in the same country as me. I live out south of l-10 off of wentworth rd in vail.

wklman, I haven't forgotten you, just trying to get both eyes fixed before I go out shooting, except for some time at the range to check out my right eye. Left eye scheduled for June 5th and not supposed to shoot or nothin for about 2 weeks after that.

Will contact you then!

Packrat

 

[Packrat 6]

i've moved in another direction. remember the 223 i shot the hog in the neck with last december because it had my 308 can on it? i only wounded that hog and had to put the can back on the 308 and finish it off. well i just got the dedicated 223 can in and have switched to coyote hunting.

OK, the following is going to sound critical, but is not meant to be, just trying to figure out why?

Trying to figure out what difference it makes! OK so a 223 with a 308 can doesn't have enough oomph to kill a hog, which for the most part makes sense. So you order a 223 can and it still doesn't have enough oomph to kill a hog so you change your priorities to Coyotes.

Why would it make any difference if you shot the Coyotes, with the same Rifle, and the same 308 can? What has changed here is the mass of the target, not the equipment.

Does the 308 can decrease the velocity or impact of the 223 round? Increased diameter and length of the suppressor slows down or otherwise affect the projectile by increasing the expandable gas area inside the can?

I don't have much experience with cans, so trying to figure out the ballistic differences between the 308 and 223 cans with the same Rifle and target!

Basically what I'm seeing is that is cost you roughly $800.00 or more, to not have to change the can back and forth UNLESS the 308 can does affect the 223 projectile performance.

To me, the most reasonable thing would have been to dump the 223 and use the 308 for everything, just changing out the bullets for each type of target. But then I don't make any secret of my feelings about the 223 round anyway!

Was just curious, and not really trying to criticize.

Packrat

 

[scrmblr1982cj8]

OK, the following is going to sound critical, but is not meant to be, just trying to figure out why?

Trying to figure out what difference it makes! OK so a 223 with a 308 can doesn't have enough oomph to kill a hog, which for the most part makes sense. So you order a 223 can and it still doesn't have enough oomph to kill a hog so you change your priorities to Coyotes.

Why would it make any difference if you shot the Coyotes, with the same Rifle, and the same 308 can? What has changed here is the mass of the target, not the equipment.

Does the 308 can decrease the velocity or impact of the 223 round? Increased diameter and length of the suppressor slows down or otherwise affect the projectile by increasing the expandable gas area inside the can?

I don't have much experience with cans, so trying to figure out the ballistic differences between the 308 and 223 cans with the same Rifle and target!

Basically what I'm seeing is that is cost you roughly $800.00 or more, to not have to change the can back and forth UNLESS the 308 can does affect the 223 projectile performance.

To me, the most reasonable thing would have been to dump the 223 and use the 308 for everything, just changing out the bullets for each type of target. But then I don't make any secret of my feelings about the 223 round anyway!

Was just curious, and not really trying to criticize.

Packrat

I've got a SWR .30 cal can. I use it on my .308/7.62s and my .223s. It is a direct thread and is pretty much idiot proof for getting on and off. I bought a $29 adaptor for my .223s. The decibel difference is negligible between a .30 can and a .223 can on a .223, so I see no point in spending money on a .223 can, the $200 tax stamp, and a year's wait time.

I use the can on my .223s when shooting so I don't **** of the neighbors. My wife loves it when I use it as well since she is tired of hearing shots.

I've used .223 to take a number of hogs. You have to go for head/neck shots or be certain to hit the shoulder joint. I prefer using a .30 cal, since I'm a firm believer in bigger is better when it comes to bullets on hogs.

On a .308, the point of impact drops about 2.5" using regular ammo at 100 yards when using a suppressor.

 

[scrmblr1982cj8]

Packrat,

I'll take a look at the light you found. Thanks!

I'm going to have to work on my feeder. The last time I put a timed feeder on my Boss Buck feeder, the friggin squirrels ate through the wires in a few weeks. I'm going to try putting a wide PCV pipe around the pole of my Boss Buck feeder to hopefully keep the darn things off my feeder and away from exposed wires.

If that doesn't work, not sure what I might have to resort to. Razor barb wire? Squirrel traps? Claymores?

 

[djones]

i have some red led feeder lights, but I don't use them much anymore. they were mostly for bow hunting. whatever color light you use, I'd suggest having a different color pin set at the distance you expect to shoot. I also find it helpful to have a scope with different colored reticle (with rheostat) from the light I'm using. I like the 'feeder' lights positioned between me and the hogs. lights attached directly to the feeder seem to shine mostly on top of the hogs. that's fine if I'm in a tree or elevated blind, but it tends to cast shadows when hunting from ground level. never used ir chem lights (don't know what they are). I don't recall recommending green lights. I use them, but like red too.

when I shot the hog with the 223, it had the 308 can on it because I just came from a coyote stand. I didn't want to unload it, remove the can, attach it to the 308 and rack the ar10's charging handle. the hogs were too close to waste any time or make any noise. i just used the attached red light, hung out the window and shot one in the neck. they all ran off several hundred yards and started grazing again. then I switched to the 308 and went after them. that's when I decided I wanted both weapons ready at all times.

i have used the 308 and night scope for yotes on many occasions, mostly from chance encounters. to call yotes with nv, I'm making a stand in total darkness and optionally using an ir light. they can see me as well (or better) as I can see them, so I have to be completely concealed with no movement; just as if I'm hunting in daytime. placing the electronic caller some distance away helps though.

using colored lights at night, I can partially blind them and hunt right from the truck and possibly get away with a little movement. since I can't use the 308 with night scope in the daytime at all, I have a day scope on the 223 for day calling. I could use the quick release features of the mounts to switch scopes and have one gun for everything, but I'd rather not play musical chairs with the scopes.

a dedicated 223 can would normally be cost prohibitive for me. however, the can was a signing bonus for accepting the position as coy's business manager. if you don't have a job working for coy, I suggest you get one. by the way, the wait on that can was a little over four months.

 

[Packrat 6]

i have some red led feeder lights, but I don't use them much anymore. they were mostly for bow hunting. whatever color light you use, I'd suggest having a different color pin set at the distance you expect to shoot. I also find it helpful to have a scope with different colored reticle (with rheostat) from the light I'm using. I like the 'feeder' lights positioned between me and the hogs. lights attached directly to the feeder seem to shine mostly on top of the hogs. that's fine if I'm in a tree or elevated blind, but it tends to cast shadows when hunting from ground level. 1) never used ir chem lights (don't know what they are). I don't recall recommending green lights. I use them, but like red too.

when I shot the hog with the 223, it had the 308 can on it because I just came from a coyote stand. 2) I didn't want to unload it, remove the can, attach it to the 308 and rack the ar10's charging handle. the hogs were too close to waste any time or make any noise. i just used the attached red light, hung out the window and shot one in the neck. they all ran off several hundred yards and started grazing again. then I switched to the 308 and went after them. that's when I decided I wanted both weapons ready at all times.

i have used the 308 and night scope for yotes on many occasions, mostly from chance encounters. to call yotes with nv, I'm making a stand in total darkness and optionally using an ir light. they can see me as well (or better) as I can see them, so I have to be completely concealed with no movement; just as if I'm hunting in daytime. placing the electronic caller some distance away helps though.

using colored lights at night, I can partially blind them and hunt right from the truck and possibly get away with a little movement. 3) since I can't use the 308 with night scope in the daytime at all, I have a day scope on the 223 for day calling. I could use the quick release features of the mounts to switch scopes and have one gun for everything, but I'd rather not play musical chairs with the scopes.

a dedicated 223 can would normally be cost prohibitive for me. however, the can was a signing bonus for accepting the position as coy's business manager. 4) if you don't have a job working for coy, I suggest you get one. by the way, the wait on that can was a little over four months.

Will comment by the numbers attached to the bold areas above:

1) IR Chem lights are similar to the normal chem lights sold in sporting goods stores except that they only generate IR light which can be used in multiple ways by military personnel. In one instance we outlined a runway for C-130's at night. The pilots, by wearing IR Goggles could identify the landing strip quite a ways away and align themselves with the runway for either landing or in this case, low altitude resupply. They are also used to outline DZ's (Drop Zones) for parachutists, can be used underwater for keeping teams together and numerous other uses. They can be purchased on Ebay and other sites, however the expiration date on the units is critical and they last for about 12 Hours normally, although some are designed for a short activation duration. they emit no visible light and cannot be seen without goggles or other IR equipment. Once in the Congo.....Well, never mind.

2) Just shows what I've always known, that basically you are lazy!.......

3) The Night vision scope my brother sent me after getting the good one, is digital and can be used day or night. Since I haven't had a chance to use it, not sure how effective it's going to be, but does simplify zeroing during daylight hours. Seems to work best just after dark and at a range of < 100 yds.

4. Yeah, I can just see Coy's need for a Retired Construction Manager, living in Arizona. On the other hand, with signing bonuses like that, where do I put in my resume?.....

Packrat

 

[Packrat 6]

I don't recall recommending green lights. I use them, but like red too.

Actually I misquoted, you suggested LED's, not of any specific color! I meant to clarify this above, but missed it in the garble of 900 words you slapped together. I think this is your longest post EVER!

Packrat