Bullet Construction vs Lethality

[P7M13]

TLDR, but what immediately came to mind is a 7.62 HEIAP in a sabot, fired from a 416 Barett or a 50 BMG

 

[memtb]

Likewise

I stopped any input quite a while back…… I am not adequately versed on the subject. Any attempted interjection into the discussion would have been futile!

Though ….it has had it's humorous moments! memtb

 

[Petey308]

 

[diggdugg70]

Because people like you seem to have issue with it . And I'm only trying to discuss the points that actually matter to the thread.

Care to add anything productive to the discussion? Are you just here to interject?

You cannot reason with the hammer cult.

 

[nralifer]

@nralifer started this thread and got beat up because his bullets are lead free. By people who haven't actually done their due diligence. I get beat up all the time for the same reason. It is not easy to actually do the testing, I get it. I do the testing and get picked apart by those who don't do the testing. I respect guys like @codyadams, he walks the walk. You are obviously a smart guy, bring your own testing to the table. It will be much better received than riding the coattails of those who have done the work.

I'm sure I will get blasted for this. It's ok.

Rest assured I do all my own testing. All our bullets are novel, and we have to state what the BC and lower limit of impact velocity at which the bullets open. All this information comes about by performing individual tests. Cody and his family do a lot of hunting with our bullets. So far, the results of his hunting do not contradict the results of our claims about our bullets. Hunting, though, is not a controlled experiment like a gel test is. Every hunt is a test of sorts, but highly uncontrolled in the sense that the hunter has limited control over the conditions of the shot, and, unlike a gel which is much more uniform in composition and density, an animal is highly non-uniform in internal density and composition. What a hunt verifies is our claim that our bullets penetrate very deeply, will expand at a low impact velocity and have high weight retention predicted by a more controlled gel test which is designed to be repeated at various impact velocities and to recover the bullet.
The photos show results of gel testing demonstrating the expansion of our bullets of different calibers. To get to that point I had to first do other testing to develop loads with low muzzle velocities, which always involves testing of various slow burning powders at charges that will yield loads whose MV is in the range of low speed we wish to test. So you can see that a lot of load development testing on my part has to be done before the gel test is done. No riding others' coat tails here.

 

[FEENIX]

@Petey308 It is time to stop sharing your system KSAs and concentrate on that e-book (put me on your list), business, and retirement. Reserve your KSAs for those who are receptive to information sharing and learning. BRRRRRRRRRT!

 

[RockyMtnMT]

Rest assured I do all my own testing. All our bullets are novel, and we have to state what the BC and lower limit of impact velocity at which the bullets open. All this information comes about by performing individual tests. Cody and his family do a lot of hunting with our bullets. So far, the results of his hunting do not contradict the results of our claims about our bullets. Hunting, though, is not a controlled experiment like a gel test is. Every hunt is a test of sorts, but highly uncontrolled in the sense that the hunter has limited control over the conditions of the shot, and, unlike a gel which is much more uniform in composition and density, an animal is highly non-uniform in internal density and composition. What a hunt verifies is our claim that our bullets penetrate very deeply, will expand at a low impact velocity and have high weight retention predicted by a more controlled gel test which is designed to be repeated at various impact velocities and to recover the bullet.
The photos show results of gel testing demonstrating the expansion of our bullets of different calibers. To get to that point I had to first do other testing to develop loads with low muzzle velocities, which always involves testing of various slow burning powders at charges that will yield loads whose MV is in the range of low speed we wish to test. So you can see that a lot of load development testing on my part has to be done before the gel test is done. No riding others' coat tails here.

I know you do your testing. You have been undermined from the beginning of this thread by people that don't have any skin in the game.

 

[A/1-61]

No need to be sarcastic. Seems like you know all there is to know, so this thread may not help you. Ideally the discussion in these threads are intended to give the less knowledgeable member some new knowledge and understanding of what they are doing. I certainly don't know it all, and participating in threads also teaches me something also.

Right on, no need for sarcasm. I joined this forum a short time ago because I don't claim to know everything about long-range shooting. Hell. I've only been doing this for 65 years and I've got a lot more to learn. Give us some really answers to hold on to.

 

[andrewpurcell222@yahoo]

Seems to me a good all copper bullet or any host of other premium bullets above 2000 fps impact velocity will do the job nicely. If you want to go long range, best bet is heavy for caliber and high BC bullets such as Berger offerings will work nicely above 1800fps. Keep in mind that you may need to drill open the tips on bergers to ensure intended performance.

 

[xsn10s]

We can all see which group has been on the attack of Badlands Precision from the beginning of this thread.

 

[xsn10s]

Seems to me a good all copper bullet or any host of other premium bullets above 2000 fps impact velocity will do the job nicely. If you want to go long range, best bet is heavy for caliber and high BC bullets such as Berger offerings will work nicely above 1800fps. Keep in mind that you may need to drill open the tips on bergers to ensure intended performance.

That is true with some monos but not all. I believe Cutting Edge bullets expand at 1800 fps or so and have high BC's so they're a viable long range bullet. Same for the Badlands posted in this post. https://www.longrangehunting.com/th...tion-vs-lethality.338318/page-55#post-2902572

 

[FEENIX]

We can all see which group has been on the attack of Badlands Precision from the beginning of this thread.

@nralifer, if any of my posts on your thread are perceived as an attack on you/Badlands Precision, my sincere apologies.

 

[andrewpurcell222@yahoo]

That is true with some monos but not all. I believe Cutting Edge bullets expand at 1800 fps or so and have high BC's so they're a viable long range bullet. Same for the Badlands posted in this post. https://www.longrangehunting.com/th...tion-vs-lethality.338318/page-55#post-2902572

For the record I shoot the 205 Badlands bulldozer through my 300 Norma. I love me some badlands precision, however…I just wanted to encourage others to shoot what suits them best

 

[xsn10s]

For the record I shoot the 205 Badlands bulldozer through my 300 Norma. I love me some badlands precision, however…I just wanted to encourage others to shoot what suits them best

As do I.