26 Nosler or 300 Win Mag

[.300H&H]

Thats not an accurate statement. Search the relationship between sectional density and penetration. The 140gr 6.5 bullets have a relatively high SD which allows good penetration. High SD bullets coupled with high velocity cartridges like the 26 nosler will have better pentration than a 180gr bullet from a 300 winny - bullet construction being equal.

Well aware of sd, I can read thanks. In this case retained weight and energy of the heavier bullet wins. And with a 26 at high speeds throw your analogy out the window if the bullet comes unglued. I've shot dozens of big game animals with a .264wm, and enough with a .300 mag to know what works better on bigger game. Guess which one came on my Grizz hunt?

I'm done, and correct.

Cheers

 

[FIGJAM]

Speed doesn't necessarily translate into energy, or we'd all be slinging 22-250's. Speed is essential to have, especially down range, to allow proper bullet expansion. If proper speed is retained with both bullets to open properly the larger diameter wins every time. It's not an opinion.

Also - the OP is asking about a 26 Nosler and a 300 win mag.

Well aware of sd, I can read thanks. In this case retained weight and energy of the heavier bullet wins. And with a 26 at high speeds throw your analogy out the window if the bullet comes unglued. I've shot dozens of big game animals with a .264wm, and enough with a .300 mag to know what works better on bigger game. Guess which one came on my Grizz hunt?

I'm done, and correct.

Cheers

. Now we are assuming bullets out of the 26 Nosler are coming unglued? Where the hell do these people come from.

This isn't a grizzly hunting thread - its a 500 yard elk thread bro. Which seems to be a problem lately - everybody is making elk out to be the equivalent of a grizzly bear where you need or want big calibers.

You can be done, but you sure as hell aren't correct...i like the attempted mic drop tho. It was cute.

 

[Phillygunner]

300 Win Mag. The 215 Berger performs well in a variety of uses. However, the 230 Berger is the mother of smack down on game. If you're hitting what you're shooting at, then there's no substitution for displacement... long as you're also using a quality bullet.

 

[Vortex!]

Wow, every other post is figjam must have lots of time for arguing!

 

[FIGJAM]

Wow, every other post is figjam must have lots of time for arguing!

Tis the season brother

 

[Alibiiv]

Tis the season brother

Wow!!! I'm glad we're sitting at a keyboard miles from each and not around a table, if we were we'd have to check our 6.5s and our 300WMs at the door before the fight starts!!!

 

[FIGJAM]

Wow, every other post is figjam must have lots of time for arguing!

I am not even retired - I have no good excuse for the amount of time I spend on here

 

[bigngreen]

Elk
Wyoming
150 yds to 500yds
140 gr Nosler Accubond for the 26; 180 gr Nosler Accubond for the 300.
Proficiency same with either rifle out to about 250 yds. I'm a tad better with the 26 beyond 250 yds.

Which would you choose and why?

Either one will suck equally or be the greatest thing you've shot elk with depending on you. Pick the one your best with and put the bullet behind the shoulder and you'll be all good!!

 

[tmmcampbell]

This is just too much fun not to get involved. I have seen more than 40 elk killed with a .243, a .338 and many calibers in between. A .22 will kill elk. Dead is dead. However in all those elk I've never seen a follow up shot with a 300 or larger. I've seen many times a 7mm and smaller needed a follow up shot. Say what you want elk are big tough animals. Jeff Brozovitch has seen 100's of elk killed. Over 80 in one season. His findings mirror mine. .30 and above kill quicker and with less follow up shots. If all I had was a .24 caliber (minimum caliber required for elk in my state) I would hunt elk with it. I would keep it under 300 yards and aim small. However I happen to own several .300's. So when I elk hunt I'm going to use the best tool for the job I own. I believe Jeff's quote was "you can cut down a tree with a claw hammer, but it is not the best tool for the job."

As hunters we should support each other in any legal method to hunt!! Op should take the gun he wants to hunt with. Since he asked my advice, as well as yours, I would suggest he take his 300 and stay within the range he is competent to deliver the bullet on target. If he doesn't feel comfortable with the 300 and he does with the .26 he should take the .26 instead. If you want to quote me say, "Take the best tool you own for the job when it comes to killing big tough critters."

 

[FIGJAM]

This is just too much fun not to get involved. I have seen more than 40 elk killed with a .243, a .338 and many calibers in between. A .22 will kill elk. Dead is dead. However in all those elk I've never seen a follow up shot with a 300 or larger. I've seen many times a 7mm and smaller needed a follow up shot. Say what you want elk are big tough animals. Jeff Brozovitch has seen 100's of elk killed. Over 80 in one season. His findings mirror mine. .30 and above kill quicker and with less follow up shots. If all I had was a .24 caliber (minimum caliber required for elk in my state) I would hunt elk with it. I would keep it under 300 yards and aim small. However I happen to own several .300's. So when I elk hunt I'm going to use the best tool for the job I own. I believe Jeff's quote was "you can cut down a tree with a claw hammer, but it is not the best tool for the job."

As hunters we should support each other in any legal method to hunt!! Op should take the gun he wants to hunt with. Since he asked my advice, as well as yours, I would suggest he take his 300 and stay within the range he is competent to deliver the bullet on target. If he doesn't feel comfortable with the 300 and he does with the .26 he should take the .26 instead. If you want to quote me say, "Take the best tool you own for the job when it comes to killing big tough critters."

I love how you managed to sneak in a shot at the 7mm's. Lol. Thats awesome

 

[werth338]

I was in camp this year and a 6.5CM dropped an elk but wasn't DRT. I shot one with 300 Win and 210 Berger and it was DRT. I know the 26 Nosler is faster and hits harder. I have a 6.5-300 which tops the 26 Nosler and didn't take it. I like extra bullet weight in this situation. 26 Nosler will work but I prefer to bring a little more gun.

Take what you shoot best and are most confident with along with a well constructed bullet.

 

[jacknifejc]

I like most all calibers and want at least one of each. However, as per your criteria I would choose my .300 wm every time. .300H&H and rfurman24 are spot on with their reasoning.

 

[257Tony]

This was taken with a 140 Berger at a pretty sedate 3100 fps, at 658 yards. One shot, dead bull. That particular rifle has killed many bulls, from 150 yards out to 658. They all took 1 shot, none have gone more than 30 yards.

Like I said earlier, if you can't kill an elk at 500 with anything from a 270 on up, you need to spend more time at the range and less time on internet forums .

 

[KyCarl]

I disagree with the speed thing! Think about this..If you had the choice of getting hit
in the chest with a bowling ball at 25 FPS or a soft ball at 50 FPS which would you chose? The softball is 2X's as fast?? And I have lived long enough to know just because
it's on paper doesn't mean it works in the real world!
I think a more relevant discussion would be the 28 Nosler!