What about a zero stop? This is a great option for the NXS that Zeiss does not offer.
Jeff
I have to ask what is this zero stop, I mean what advantage does it have4? does Nightforce have a past problem with turrets not staying where they should, never had any of my NON zero stop Leupold's have turret problems, sounds like a gimmick to me.
Other wise you have valid points, they are two different scopes. for day time target shooting, the nightforce is king, for hunting in the day it may be even..
Shooting out past 1000 yards for most people who hunt is impossible, unless you are 600 lbs of muscle and can carry a 400 lb bench rest and items for s steady shot, the rare exception for those out west or in the mountains who can set heavy equipment up on hill not far from truck or lay prone out west, then I am wrong, but for the most part, using shooting stix, a tripod etc, 300-600 yards is enough, the Zeiss is fine for this, and with 20 moa bases 1000 yards would be do-able.
I guess it comes down to what kind of hunting do we do and where at.
out west, with little trees, there is really no need for a big high priced Zeiss, because hunting hours limit your low light hunting for deer etc, and no forests that get dark to need low light performance.
I mainly coyote hunt, and my state does not allow deer to be taken with rifle, although state below me does.
If i'm setting up for coyotes out to 500 yards, and none come in to the call at 6pm, I can wait a little longer and they come out by the 100's when it is just almost dark. So I'm trying to sight in on mr Coyote at 450 yard at dusk, can barely see him at 14-20 power, and it is getting darker..
I'm not complaining about my 1994 6.5-20x50mm VXII Leupold, I'll even wager the Nightforce 56mm is going to give me better light gathering.
But if I can just get another 15-20 minutes of time to hunt when it is a little darker and the coyotes are pouring out in the safety of low light, then what scope is going to make my hunting successful?
The Conquest 4-12x56mm for $1000 seems like a better performer than any Nightforce for any price in this situation. low light!
I know the conquest does not have the quality glass the Diavari does and esp the Hensoldt. the $3700 6-24 power by massive 72mm Zeiss Hensoldt with a huge 34mm tube is probably the king of kings when it comes to scopes,
Another reason for the Zeiss, would be out of state deer hunting, if I drive 120 miles to hunt, and I see a deer in the deep woods at 525 yards, I want clarity, the zero stop crap isn't going to let me see the deer any better.
If I lived out went in the open plains (Wish I did), and only hunt deer and elk I'd probably have a Nightforce for those 1200 yard shots.
the Zeiss high end scope optics are much better than Nightforce, but the conquest line is only just barely better, old tek Zeiss optics most likely.
So, not going to be noticeable in the daytime much.
For sure no one here is saying the Nightforce is low quality, not even the optics, probably better than Leupold, and Leupolds are not low quality.
I would trade my leupold for either one