Suppressor that don’t break ya

[Dentite]

Serious question here, gentlemen:

What's the value of a suppressor if the bullet is going supersonic?

I was at my son in law's house a couple of months ago, and he was shooting his .223 about 200 yards from where I was sitting. I could tell the muzzle blast was suppressed, but then I could hear the bullet breaking the sound barrier on it's way to the target. It seemed to me as if it was as loud as an unsuppressed shot.

If you are just shooting at a range, you'll still want ear protection, so you are right that it's still pretty loud.

But when hunting, the benefit to me is that it's so much less loud than when unsuppressed. That means I don't have to bother with ear protection. You also get some recoil reduction and less blast to the sides.

Whether it's worth it or not to you, is up to you.

 

[ATTkid]

Surefire SOCOM 762 RC . Amazingly quiet with consistent & predictable accuracy

There's a good reason that SOCOM units will take a Surefire over any other can: They don't fail, period. Pricey definitely, but their quality is better than anything else you can buy. If you want one that's a lifetime purchase, buy once, cry once, but you'll never regret buying the best.

 

[ATTkid]

The sound wave you hear isn't coming from the muzzle blast. It's from the bullet. The same as a wake from a boat. @ 90 degrees from the flight path. In either hunting scenario it deceives your true location with your prey. That's why I use one.

Exactly! When you hear the sonic boom from a plane the sound is never near the plane, it's way, way behind it. Same applies to the report of a rifle, that's what is suppressed. No "Hollywood" pew-pew unless you're shooting subsonic ammo.

 

[asd9055]

I am running a SilencerCo Omega300 on a 223 and 22-250 coyote hunting and am pleased.

Do you still run it with the 30 cal front cap or a 22 cal front cap?

 

[Dentite]

Do you still run it with the 30 cal front cap or a 22 cal front cap?

You weren't asking me, but I run the Omega 300 on .223, .204 Ruger, .20 Practical with a .223 front end cap. I can't say it makes a huge difference, but I do think it makes a little difference so I think it's worth it.

 

[Terry Lightle]

30 Cal cap

 

[asd9055]

Thank you both. Only run mine on 300AAC so far but planning on trying it out on other calibers

 

[112Savage]

If I were looking at cheaper cans I would look into:
Silencerco Harvester and Harvester evo
YHM Resonator R2 (change the mount to DT and save 4+oz)

A 12-16 ounce all titanium form 1 can will still cost you $500 before the tax stamp.

My father and I just bought from a guy who has a great name in the "re-coring form1 cans" arena his company is ECCO machine in Colorado.

 

[QuietTexan]

SilencerCo must have a reason (heat sink or something) for the permanent brake on the Harvester series, but that's the biggest reason I avoided it and went to the Omega. I can't tell a difference with out without the brake cap on the Omega, it doesn't seem like a very effective design for a brake which is why I'm assuming there's another underlying rationale.

 

[Dentite]

SilencerCo must have a reason (heat sink or something) for the permanent brake on the Harvester series, but that's the biggest reason I avoided it and went to the Omega. I can't tell a difference with out without the brake cap on the Omega, it doesn't seem like a very effective design for a brake which is why I'm assuming there's another underlying rationale.

Hard to beat the Omega for it's modularity. I run it with 30 and 223 flat caps depending on what caliber of rifle.

The new Harvester Evo is a tubeless design, welded front with a 30 cal sized hole (can't change the front cap), comes with direct thread mounts in both 5/8 and 1/2 for an attractive price.

I do think the Omega has the edge with a bit more modularity without much weight penalty, but Harvester Evo is a good choice for someone who just wants to thread it onto their hunting rifle and not think too much about it.

 

[Greta06]

I could never understand the fixed brake on the harvester either? The new harvester evo looks good, had to jump at it for the price and the free 22 can to boot. That would have been perfect for the op...

 

[QuietTexan]

I hadn't seen the new Evo, I like that significantly more than the older two. REALLY like the Bravo insert in the back, that works with the Omega and Hybrid 46 platforms like the 338 did, not the weird little Alpha series that worked with the pistol cans.

I think you'll like the Warlock. It's so light that it almost feels cheap, but when you take it apart it's very well put together. You could hand me my rifle with or without the can on and if my eyes were closed it would be impossible to tell the difference at 3oz. If you have a threaded 22LR there's no reason to not have one screwed on.

 

[Mattbowen61990]

As you can see, your options are limitless in today's time. Buy for the warranty, and if you are interested in numbers, check out Pew science. Jay is putting together actual data, and not just "what I think sounds good". Someone said Banish and Thunder beast are at the top, not in 2021, and not in 2022 either. There are better performing cans with better features for less cost than both of those. Nothing against either one of those, but they still use relatively old technology, and are limited on mounting options. CGS Hyperion has the crown (for now) for sound suppression, and the Dead Air Nomad L is right with it. Your budget will determine what you deem "break the bank".... But you missed out on a great deal, Silencershop was running a free tax stamp special on the Dead Air Nomad LT which is titanium and a SS exclusive. That was likely one of the best deals of the year. But it would still cost you about $1k to purchase.
That being said, I have both a Nomad 30 and a Nomad L, the Nomad L was just approved last week, so I haven't got the stamp just yet. The Nomad 30 is plenty for what the majority of people need, and it's really good for a short can. If you are looking for the best budget cans, I would go with YHM since they usually have a decent warranty, and the price is often affordable.

 

[Mattbowen61990]

There's a good reason that SOCOM units will take a Surefire over any other can: They don't fail, period. Pricey definitely, but their quality is better than anything else you can buy. If you want one that's a lifetime purchase, buy once, cry once, but you'll never regret buying the best.

SOCOM units chose it because of the low muzzle flash capability. Surefire is just as prone to failure as any other mfg, hang around a few boards enough and you will see failures from them just as often as other companies. I saw one last week where the end just bulged out, no baffle strike, nothing, it just bulged out and the can had to be destroyed (not reparable). They make great equipment, but it's still not immune to mass manufacturing. Just because SOCOM units chose 1 can doesn't mean they won't go to the lowest bidder next time around. Also doesn't mean it's the best option for someone not interested in doing SOCOM things either, or have a desire for flash suppression.