Reloder28
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My latest bayonet purchase has at least a 4' cord, may be longer!
My sympathy for your mother.
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My latest bayonet purchase has at least a 4' cord, may be longer!
My sympathy for your mother.
Randy Tidwell
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Thanks Reloader, it is just part of life. She is in better place now.
jjmp
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Great job!!!, & sorry for your Loss !
Randy Tidwell
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Reloader, the cord is fine, it just interferred with the vertical round bar (not enough room), do I had to make a new plate that move the bayo out farther from the bar.
Red Cherokee
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Randy is a good and thorough practical engineer and his adaptation of the MagnetoSpeed bayonet mount will work the way he wants it to work sooner or later. I have two MagnetoSpeed chronographs and some of my rifles show group displacement and a change in group size when the bayonet is strapped on. Other rifles do not. Rifles are like women - you often do not know what pleases them - and what doesn't.
Randy Tidwell
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Red, I am not engineer or machinist. I tell everyone I am a metal whittler , lol
But I do claim to have a PHD in common sense.
But I do claim to have a PHD in common sense.
Red Cherokee
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Randy - be careful with the PHD line -
My Dad had a PHD - he said it really means "Piled High and Deep. He was too refined to suggest what was piled too high ...
My Dad had a PHD - he said it really means "Piled High and Deep. He was too refined to suggest what was piled too high ...
MNbogboy
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Great thread. Hoping Randy hit it early on, but there is still hope.
Did several experiments like others with my mag speed same results. Bullets always impact away from bayou no matter where it is clocked (up to 6 or 7 inches with some). Groups are tighter with my light barrels and about the same on heavy barrels.
Some think it is the gas hitting the bayou in front of the bullet. Another logical theory is Lenz's law. Where the spinning copper jacket sets up its own magnetic field when passing over the magnets (similar to dropping a magnet thru a copper tube ie; Lenz's law ).
At any rate if we can control the bore to bayou height relationship on the axillary mount we will be golden. But the deflection may still be there! The key will be the bench/barrel/target/bayonet relationship. Any variance will cause mis-reads or worst case destroyed bayo.
The aftermarket stock mounted extensions are too flimsy looking in my opinion, but who am i? (tired & retired engineer & machine designer).
My thought would be to get the rifle in perfect alignment on the rest with the target and then bring the mag speed upwards to "index off" 2 places on the bottom of the barrel then set & lock down. Setting should remain same on same POA as long as front & rear bags stay constant. Tough criteria!
Good luck Randy,
Randy L.
Randy my condolences on your Mom.
My Dad went to be with Jesus on May 22.
God bless.
Did several experiments like others with my mag speed same results. Bullets always impact away from bayou no matter where it is clocked (up to 6 or 7 inches with some). Groups are tighter with my light barrels and about the same on heavy barrels.
Some think it is the gas hitting the bayou in front of the bullet. Another logical theory is Lenz's law. Where the spinning copper jacket sets up its own magnetic field when passing over the magnets (similar to dropping a magnet thru a copper tube ie; Lenz's law ).
At any rate if we can control the bore to bayou height relationship on the axillary mount we will be golden. But the deflection may still be there! The key will be the bench/barrel/target/bayonet relationship. Any variance will cause mis-reads or worst case destroyed bayo.
The aftermarket stock mounted extensions are too flimsy looking in my opinion, but who am i? (tired & retired engineer & machine designer).
My thought would be to get the rifle in perfect alignment on the rest with the target and then bring the mag speed upwards to "index off" 2 places on the bottom of the barrel then set & lock down. Setting should remain same on same POA as long as front & rear bags stay constant. Tough criteria!
Good luck Randy,
Randy L.
Randy my condolences on your Mom.
My Dad went to be with Jesus on May 22.
God bless.
WyoHunter1
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I did not read all the posts thus far so I apologize if I mis understood the point.
A chronograph is to check speed E.S, and such so I don't see the issue.
You don't add a camera on your barrel when checking for accuracy. It changes everything! Check for speed. Take off the chrono and then go for accuracy.
A chronograph is to check speed E.S, and such so I don't see the issue.
You don't add a camera on your barrel when checking for accuracy. It changes everything! Check for speed. Take off the chrono and then go for accuracy.
Man I lost my mom in Dec and because I am mil and not at home she passed in her apartment floor, without a thing I could do. I am truly sorry brother and I feel your pain as it haunts me everyday. I am glad u are pressing on as for me it's still tough!
Reloder28
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https://www.rammount.com/shop-all/ball-bases/b-size?page=1
https://www.rammount.com/shop-all/socket-arms/b-size
For remote use I am going this route since I do not have the "metal whittler" tools necessary. My quest, like Randy's is to have the mount take off from the shooting rest. The double ball mount & socket arms makes it quite adjustable. I have my bayonet mounted on a slide. Hopefully I can get the right combination to get the bayonet tucked up below the muzzle. I'll be mocking it up & testing for rigidity.
Again, I have theorized on this for months. I believe I have a solution. Rest assured, I will get it figured out.
https://www.rammount.com/shop-all/socket-arms/b-size
For remote use I am going this route since I do not have the "metal whittler" tools necessary. My quest, like Randy's is to have the mount take off from the shooting rest. The double ball mount & socket arms makes it quite adjustable. I have my bayonet mounted on a slide. Hopefully I can get the right combination to get the bayonet tucked up below the muzzle. I'll be mocking it up & testing for rigidity.
Again, I have theorized on this for months. I believe I have a solution. Rest assured, I will get it figured out.
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Randy Tidwell
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First, thanks to all for the condolences. Mom has been ill for almost two years. She lived with us so we could take care of her. I told a friend the other day that 80% of my emotions are happy she is no longer in pain, she is in a better place with her parents, dad, and her sister. She has her pride and dignity back. 20% of me is sad mom is gone, those are pretty good percentages.
Back to the subject at hand.
RandyL: I agree with you completely, the bayou is still going to have an affect on the bullet path, just like a muzzle break. Anything you do to affect the pressure turbulence is going change things. My belief (I am not an engineer) is it will result in less variance than being attached to the barrel. I am looking forward to testing this tonight.
Condolences for your lose of you dad. I lost mine in 2001, our last hunt was Montana 1994. He is on my right. The gentleman on my left is the Scout Master that pinned my Eagle Scout on me when I was a boy, that was great hunt. He and dad became best friends thru the Scouting program.
Reloader28: If this works and you need help making the parts you need, let me know. I will be happy to help. I have zero intentions of trying to market something like this, but I love making stuff for fellow shooters.
Remmy700: Sorry for you loss, that is tough not being there. I was lucky with both parents being there.
This thread is not about loosing our parents or loved ones, but at the same time, we must honor them. That is the way I was raised.
So to honor her, this is my favorite photo I took of her at Disneyland about 10 years ago. I had it blown up to 11x14, it hangs at the bottom of our stairs.
They were both hunters, she loved to bird hunt.
Years ago, I bought her a left handed 257 Wby MK5. She loved it and made sure that it was to be passed on to my youngest grandson that happens to be left handed.
Back to the subject at hand.
RandyL: I agree with you completely, the bayou is still going to have an affect on the bullet path, just like a muzzle break. Anything you do to affect the pressure turbulence is going change things. My belief (I am not an engineer) is it will result in less variance than being attached to the barrel. I am looking forward to testing this tonight.
Condolences for your lose of you dad. I lost mine in 2001, our last hunt was Montana 1994. He is on my right. The gentleman on my left is the Scout Master that pinned my Eagle Scout on me when I was a boy, that was great hunt. He and dad became best friends thru the Scouting program.
Reloader28: If this works and you need help making the parts you need, let me know. I will be happy to help. I have zero intentions of trying to market something like this, but I love making stuff for fellow shooters.
Remmy700: Sorry for you loss, that is tough not being there. I was lucky with both parents being there.
This thread is not about loosing our parents or loved ones, but at the same time, we must honor them. That is the way I was raised.
So to honor her, this is my favorite photo I took of her at Disneyland about 10 years ago. I had it blown up to 11x14, it hangs at the bottom of our stairs.
They were both hunters, she loved to bird hunt.
Years ago, I bought her a left handed 257 Wby MK5. She loved it and made sure that it was to be passed on to my youngest grandson that happens to be left handed.
Randy Tidwell
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Well it 8:30 here in CA.
Just fired the first 5 shots, yippie!
All five shot registered. Didn't need any adjustment between shots.
The rounds I was shooting were some left overs from a previous test.
168 Barnes TTSX, Average vel 3474, Sd 14.
Now I am ready to start testing the 181 Hammers
Just fired the first 5 shots, yippie!
All five shot registered. Didn't need any adjustment between shots.
The rounds I was shooting were some left overs from a previous test.
168 Barnes TTSX, Average vel 3474, Sd 14.
Now I am ready to start testing the 181 Hammers
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Randy Tidwell
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Group 1 was with Bayou attached to the rest.
Group 2 was without Bayou
Group 2 was without Bayou
