Hunting muzzle brakes

[BTL]

BTL,

Well, at least I am consistent in my inability to communicate. Here goes again. If the inside diameter of the brake is about a 1/16" under the outside diameter, so that it is a thin wall tube, containing only a single baffle at the end of the brake with the hole for the bullet to go through then the brake won't be very effective.

I will add this: If there are multiple baffles with vents to the outside between the muzzle and the baffle through which the bullet passes the brake will be very effective. It will be like a thick wall brake.

Explained so even my simple mind can understand.
BTL

 

[IdahoCTD]

RockyMtnMT,

I found their web page. I had a Terminator 3 and sold it when I disassembled my 6.5RUMLN but still have a Terminator 2 on my 6.5SLR. I could see impacts at distance like 300 yards or more.

Since I've played with lots of brakes I can tell you from looking at the photos on their sight the Terminator 2 wouldn't stand a chance against any of their brakes. The Terminator 3 might be better than most are used to but I bet APS Pain Killer is better. I'm going to make one from aluminum to compare in my recoil slide. I don't know what angle he uses so I will go with 15* - 20*. That's what I can get in my mill/drill.

It says right on his site he uses 30 degrees. The guy from Terminator products has already tested his brakes against the Pain Killer brakes on a 375 Cheytac Imp and 338 Lapua. The T2 did the same as a Pain Killer 3 port despite the massive width of the PK slabbed brake on a 338 Lapua and the T3 did better. Bigger doesn't always mean better and more expensive really doesn't translate into better. You'll never really know how the original does by trying to copy it rather than buying it.

I'll know first hand when I get my slabbed brakes done if they are better then a round brake with the same port. My feeling is there is no difference because the gas departs the muzzle at a certain max angle and with steep enough ports the gas is already redirected without the need of additional width. Either way in under a month I'll know.

 

[Rich Coyle]

IdahoCTD,

Looks like you saved me some money for the material and the time at the mill. I will spend the time shooting instead of on the recoil sled. I owe you.

 

[RockyMtnMT]

It says right on his site he uses 30 degrees. The guy from Terminator products has already tested his brakes against the Pain Killer brakes on a 375 Cheytac Imp and 338 Lapua. The T2 did the same as a Pain Killer 3 port despite the massive width of the PK slabbed brake on a 338 Lapua and the T3 did better. Bigger doesn't always mean better and more expensive really doesn't translate into better. You'll never really know how the original does by trying to copy it rather than buying it.

I'll know first hand when I get my slabbed brakes done if they are better then a round brake with the same port. My feeling is there is no difference because the gas departs the muzzle at a certain max angle and with steep enough ports the gas is already redirected without the need of additional width. Either way in under a month I'll know.

I will be interested to see your results. My last PK brake on my 338 is medium and I had it turned down to min specs for the look of it. It works very well but it was explained to me that I would lose some of the efficiency of the brake by making the baffles smaller. I did not try it full size before turning it down so I do not know for sure.

Steve

 

[WalksLikeADeer]

This one test with a sound meter suggests otherwise.

Muzzle Brakes: Sound Test - PrecisionRifleBlog.com

 

[Rich Coyle]

This one test with a sound meter suggests otherwise.

Muzzle Brakes: Sound Test - PrecisionRifleBlog.com

Thanks for posting this. I am delighted. I purchased a TBAC Ultra 9 last September!

 

[WalksLikeADeer]

I would be interested in how effective it is in reducing recoil? I installed a Witt Machine brake on my 7mm Rem Mag and it really tamed the recoil. It feels like 50-60% less. I would say just less than my .243 Win.

Quieter would definitely be better than louder! Thanks.

 

[lancetkenyon]

For a light taper barrel, I have an APA Micro Bastard brake on a #3 Bartlein in 7RM. My 14 year old daughter can shoot it very comfortably, it does not kick sand or rocks in your face when shooting prone, and it looks pretty good too.

 

[WalksLikeADeer]

Very nice!!!

 

[TC338]

For a light taper barrel, I have an APA Micro Bastard brake on a #3 Bartlein in 7RM. My 14 year old daughter can shoot it very comfortably, it does not kick sand or rocks in your face when shooting prone, and it looks pretty good too.

What stock are you running? You just solved my search for the brake on my build thanks!!!

 

[Tidus56]

I have a micro bastard and a little bastard from APA. Both are very effective and I have no complaints.

 

[lancetkenyon]

What stock are you running? You just solved my search for the brake on my build thanks!!!

Manners EH2 on that rifle.

 

[TC338]

Manners EH2 on that rifle.

Awesome, do you have any problem getting a good cheek weld with that stock? I'm debating between the EH2 and the MCS-TA. How does the rifle balance? I was worried about it being front heavy. Building one right now in 6.5 creedmoor.

 

[lancetkenyon]

I run a padded cheek piece on it, and it is sweet. Not cold on the cheek, soft but not squishy, holds some extra rounds, weighs about 7oz.