cowboy
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Gunwerks in Wyoming has them. Had a fellow shooter get 500 to his door in 4 days.
Gunwerks in Wyoming has them. You can call them or place your order on their web site.
More than likely loaded for a variety of twist rates in factory guns.OK, here is some questions I have.
I am no expert. Perhaps you all can set me straight.
1. Why does Hornady load the 7mm rem mag in 162 ELX instead of the 175?
Their 175 clearly has a better BC, and extra weight.
They are loading conservatively for best accuracy...and for long range precision.
Consequently they are at 2940 fps for the 162 ELX.
However, according to Nosler, their most accurate load for their 175 is at 2970fps
(note my limited sources and extrapolations)
Anyway, my point is that if they have the 175, it has better BC, and you can load it easily to match the muzzle velocity of the 162...isn't that the obvious choice for the longest range ammo for the 7mm rem mag?
OK, here is some questions I have.
I am no expert. Perhaps you all can set me straight.
1. Why does Hornady load the 7mm rem mag in 162 ELX instead of the 175?
Their 175 clearly has a better BC, and extra weight.
They are loading conservatively for best accuracy...and for long range precision.
Consequently they are at 2940 fps for the 162 ELX.
However, according to Nosler, their most accurate load for their 175 is at 2970fps
(note my limited sources and extrapolations)
Anyway, my point is that if they have the 175, it has better BC, and you can load it easily to match the muzzle velocity of the 162...isn't that the obvious choice for the longest range ammo for the 7mm rem mag?
Actually, I ran the 200 and 212 ELD-X through Berger's stability equation using 1-10" twist and if I recall correctly, the 200 was stable and the 212 was very close ...missed it by .1 on their scale.Probably the same reasons as they are running the 200 ELD-X instead of the 212 in the 300 Win Mag
Actually, I ran the 200 and 212 ELD-X through Berger's stability equation using 1-10" twist and if I recall correctly, the 200 was stable and the 212 was very close ...missed it by .1 on their scale.Probably the same reasons as they are running the 200 ELD-X instead of the 212 in the 300 Win Mag
Actually, I ran the 200 and 212 ELD-X through Berger's stability equation using 1-10" twist and if I recall correctly, the 200 was stable and the 212 was very close ...missed it by .1 on their scale.
Bottom line is for all practical purposes they are "identical" in terms of their stability factor.
For their initial offerings they are producing what they can sell in high volume quickly.OK, here is some questions I have.
I am no expert. Perhaps you all can set me straight.
1. Why does Hornady load the 7mm rem mag in 162 ELX instead of the 175?
Their 175 clearly has a better BC, and extra weight.
They are loading conservatively for best accuracy...and for long range precision.
Consequently they are at 2940 fps for the 162 ELX.
However, according to Nosler, their most accurate load for their 175 is at 2970fps
(note my limited sources and extrapolations)
Anyway, my point is that if they have the 175, it has better BC, and you can load it easily to match the muzzle velocity of the 162...isn't that the obvious choice for the longest range ammo for the 7mm rem mag?
I agree with all of this...For their initial offerings they are producing what they can sell in high volume quickly.
Going heavier than 162gr means that there are a limited number of rifles that can stabilize them due to factory barrels with slower twists.
This is pretty common with any sort of new product launch in the bullet/ammo industry.
There's a whole lot of investment in developing a new concept bullet like this in both time and money and they need to recoup it as quickly as they can. There's also an immense amount of retooling required to set up to run any given bullet so it will take some time for them to get to producing the heavies.
Gotta be patient as bad as it hurts, believe me those of us that have been doing this for a long time have gotten used to it. We don't like it, but we accept it.