Will never buy anything First lite again. Most of what I purchased from them failed, didn't fit well, or fell apart very quickly. That said. Almost everything I wear now is KUIU besides boots, underwear, and socks. I have items that are close to 10 years old now and are still going strong. You most likely won't find some one that uses and abuses KUIU more than myself as I wear it all the time for work. If you can wait for sales that is your best buying option and do yourself a favor and get a pair of attack pants, Peloton, and a strong fleece right off the bat. Really good stuff.