Thanks petey308
Sorry some is probably Aussie slang & terminology other parts me
So are you saying we need to keep that type of projectile @ or below 2600 impact ?
So if that's the case how do you reach out to 1500 yards & still be covered to that 50 yrd shot
& also that 50 yrd shot has a lot more% wise of being a angled shot
I do note that better placed shots are part of the answer but a lot of times with either human error , animal movements or the case of obstacles in the way the perfect shot is not possible & a less than ideal shot is taken hence the insurance ea hunter builds into their combo
Haha, it's fine. I actually talk with quite a few Aussies and have picked up on a lot of the slang. I think most of it was just how you broke it up.
No, you can still take shots with above 2600fps, but that's when where you place your shot is detrimental.
And if a guy is trying to reach out to 1500 yards for a shot, they're typically either double loading and have ammo for close range shots too, or they're not taking shots at all at close range at all, in my experience. I did say typically though. Some still use the same load with close range shots but have to be very particular about their shot placement. I see a lot of guys take head shots at close range. Obviously if it's a trophy, you might not want to do that. Hitting behind the shoulder is still a good place to hit, or in the chest if it's quartering or facing you. By hitting behind the shoulder, resistance is greatly reduced but you can still hit lungs and liver, which both hold an immense amount of blood and will still cause a quick death.
Ultimately, with a cup and core bullet, if you're going to impact significantly above 2600fps, you have to be willing to accept the bullet will experience a lot of expansion and not as much penetration, even with lesser resistance.
This is where I try to stress to people cartridge selection as well. A smaller, but more efficient cartridge and caliber can definitely help increase your range by means of boosted BCs and not require as much starting velocity.
Using a good balanced bullet with high BC, soft construction, and high sectional density can give you the best of both worlds as far as close and long range capability. For example, using a 208gr ELDM in a 300wm at 2900fps MV, you're below 2600fps at 250 yards already, so any shot under that placed where impact resistance is low but will still hit vitals, will still do well due to its high sectional density, and that particular bullet type is good to at least 1400fps and that load would hit that right around 1450 yards. So it's a well balanced load. I've personally used that load on deer at 40 yards and it still performed excellent placing the shot behind the shoulder.
Even my 195gr TMK load for one of my 308s is good to 1000 yards and also has been thoroughly tested inside 50 yards.
There's unfortunately no magical bullet that can do it all and extremely well. You're going to have to accept a loss in top performance potential when dancing around the outer limits of a particular bullet. Ultimately it does indeed come down to adjustable shot placement as required. I think a lot of guys don't understand just how much impact resistance matters and influences how the bullet behaves once it impacts and begins penetrating and expanding. Dense muscle and tissues can create more resistance than bone. Resistance through contracted muscle versus relaxed muscle is different too. Bones are also slightly softer inside the living body versus when dried out and dead, particularly shoulder blades. Even the centrifugal forces of the spinning bullet influence how it behaves terminally. A faster twist rate and MV will result in a more violently expanding bullet than a slower twist rate and MV due to higher and lower RPMs.
