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"AR" Definition

Radman said:
Long Rant: You are right👍 but - something that we ALL need to be mindful of is the fact that "they" are going to try to hold gun manufacturers liable, (which is ludicrous)!
Yes, there are laws that are SUPPOSED to protect the manufacturers. No, they don't work. (Look at Remington)
They ARE going to go after the manufacturers. (I read that Daniel Defense has already been tagged for liability in this latest hell)
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I agree. That was not in this bill that I could see. That said, they are going after these gun manufacturers based on their "marketing" and breaking some state level marketing laws.

I saw a picture from the Daniel Defense ad. That image has occurred in my home. It is called teaching kids right and wrong in their formative years. My kids had some interest in guns at a young age. I showed them guns while talking them through checking the gun is empty. We talked through the four rules and how they applied to this situation. We put them back into safe storage which nobody has access to except me. We also reviewed Eddie Eagle materials and went to a couple gun shows. They have gone shooting a few times.

The attack on Daniel Defense needs to go to the Supreme Court. I don't see how states are legally circumventing federal law.

So, what could be done legally? Well, could we follow up through the schools on are the parents connected to their children? Are the children on pace for learning? If not, are the parents engaged with the school on a catch up plan? If not, report them to CPS for follow up? Do the children need mental health counseling? Has the school counselor evaluated? With a counselor's recommendation, did the parents seek professional mental health treatment? No….report to CPS. Fund CPS to create parenting plans? Are parents following? If not, kids get removed and placed. Yes, this is expensive. Yes, as part of this, the state should collect costs from these parents, but the parents will have nothing. This will increase tax burden, but it is the right thing to do. It will benefit all Americans and their safety.
 
The more you think about it the funnier it gets.
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xsn10s said:
Those so called "Assault Weapons" continued to be sold in a different configuration. "High capacity magazines" were grandfathered in. So they can claim that the Assault Weapons bans decreased crime, but the number of weapons out there remained the same.
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They knew that the "assault weapons ban" would have zero impact on crime…so Joe Biden at POTUS Clinton's request worked diligently on the "crime bill" that included "stop and frisk", "100000 more cops" and massive police funding. This was all later determined to be "racist" and yet somehow that never stuck on Joe Biden or Clinton's media resume. That was their plan to get the "assault weapons ban" to stick….massively funding a racist police shakedown.
 
nksmfamjp said:
10/22 is covered by the age restriction.
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I think you misunderstand my point. Even if the 10/22 isn't under the bill as it is today it's up for questioning. It's a semi auto firearm. The AR Jr is being deemed as evil marketing towards kids. The 10/22 is what most adults learned to shoot when we were kids. It's not a far jump to get this new bill to attack all semi auto firearms.
 
Radman said:
Long Rant: You are right👍 but - something that we ALL need to be mindful of is the fact that "they" are going to try to hold gun manufacturers liable, (which is ludicrous)!
Yes, there are laws that are SUPPOSED to protect the manufacturers. No, they don't work. (Look at Remington)
They ARE going to go after the manufacturers. (I read that Daniel Defense has already been tagged for liability in this latest hell)
All they have to do is go after the manufacturers, one by one, & then there will be none....no need to outlaw guns! (See what Canada has already done about "pistols")
Look, we all know this is just a gun grab ploy. HOW CAN A MANUFACTURER BE HELD LIABLE FOR WHAT A LOST, SICK, DISTURBED, ANGRY, EVIL PERSON DECIDES TO DO WITH THEIR PRODUCT?
I mean - where does it end? Will they shut down: Car, truck, boat, plane, walking cane, motorcycle, farm equipment (tractors), lawn equipment (chain saws), sports equipment (bats) and tool manufacturers (hammers, saws, screwdrivers) just because someone decided to use their quality product to kill someone with?
It's crazy but if we all just sit back all fed & comfy it may just happen!
JMO - Radman
PS: For those of you who like to argue & nitpick, don't! We ALL already know about liability lawsuits because of poor or faulty design or assembly or the fact that someone's coffee or fries
were too hot. 🙄
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In responses to deaths and injuries, vehicle manufacturers were required to add seatbelts and, later, airbags. Training, licensing, and insurance are required. We all still drive, and there are fewer casualties.
 
I'd argue that the recent spike in gun violence is due to the jails releasing many of the prisoners due to covid. And due to not enforcing or prosecuting suspects due to this woke mentality. Besides if we aren't going to enforce the laws we have how is creating new laws going to help. My answer is it won't, we just won't have firearms. Or at least the ones we want or currently have.
 
xsn10s said:
I'd argue that the recent spike in gun violence is due to the jails releasing many of the prisoners due to covid. And due to not enforcing or prosecuting suspects due to this woke mentality. Besides if we aren't going to enforce the laws we have how is creating new laws going to help. My answer is it won't, we just won't have firearms. Or at least the ones we want or currently have.
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Good question and one that gets asked a lot. You could shoot a president, and several others around him and get off in time. So I would point at judges not enforcing existing laws.
 
Zillions of old .22 rimfire fixed magazine (tube type) rifles exist, some of the semi auto type. Looking at various state gun regs, fixed tube magazine arms get a pass while those having "detachable ammunition feeding devices" are regulated. Weapons of war usually have detachable magazines except for various single loaded (rocket) armor defeating weapons that are NFA classified. Ignorance and hysteria have risen the common AR rifle (MSR) to that of a "weapon of mass destruction" - a term commonly used for chem & nuke weapons and the question is then asked - "why would any person need a weapon intended for war?"

Will gun regs reach into American closets to remove dusty semi-auto blow back, tube magazine .22 rimfire rifles?
 
Meanwhile, we're sending billions of dollars worth of weapons to the Ukrainians to defend their home land, what are the chances of gun control existing in that country once the dust has settled, what are the chances of any Ukrainian that was given an m4 turning it in after the dust has settled, I'll venture to say none if any
 

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