Creedmoor shooter
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Check out the rl-26 6.5 CM thread on here. I think you'd be suprised at the velocities rl-26 gives.
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TX Badger
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I'm just sharing what Blackjack has tested. It looks like 3000 in the creed was fairly warm as there was a spike right after that, but they reported no pressure signs at 2945 in their x47 barrel. See attached. I understand the skepticism though, same capacity, same bullet weight, same velocity in a smaller bore... bearing surface length? Barrel length? 26" isn't crazy long though.
I am going to pick up some of this R26. This magical fairy dust seems like the only powder worthy of being stuffed into a creedmoor. Right behind some unobtainium bullets and I should be ready for my spring unicorn in Narnia. Sorry I couldn't help myself ;-)
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Alliants website says R26 will run a 100 Ballistic Tip to 3340 out of a 25.06. Yup, I'm in for trying the pixie dust. ;-)
Creedmoor shooter
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Good luck finding it.
TX Badger
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I worked up a 25-06 load with 100gr partitions and H4350 for a friend who can't handle any recoil do to jaw reconstruction. I do not remember where I got pressure but backed down to 52.5gr and around 3300 for accuracy. If the R26 doesn't work try H4350. I'm joking about the R26 but am just as biased towards H-powders. I develop loads in the summer in TX and then hunt in WI in Nov. Where it can be well below freezing in the am. Not that something else wouldn't work I've just had such good luck with the Hs.
TX Badger
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Probably blasphemy for someone who has shot a 6.5 for almost 40 years, but I don't have a Creedmoor.When I tell people about the 260 Rem, I hear "its a what?".
Yeah I'm a contrarian too. I built a 260 ai instead of going the cm route. Just seemed like more fun. And it has been.
Creedmoor shooter
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I would've gone that route if it wasnt for the dang fire forming. Been doing it for a 22-250AI. Not sure it's my cup of tea
I bought a little model 7 when Remington first brought the 260 in it. I put a scope on it & dialed it in, then handed it off to nephews & nieces to learn to hunt with. Dang, I haven't seen that rifle in a long while. But it has accounted for many elk, deer & pronghorn on its path. I hear its in the hands of a great nephew now (he'll be hunting age this spring).
86alaskan
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someone asked how the 25 creed can go that fast with a heavier bullet and less powder? efficiency, plain and simple. the Creedmoor case is far more efficient than the 25-06. I love my "06, but you gotta stuff it full for max performance. I run my 115 berger at 3150 out of a 24" 19" twist barrel. It's accurate and reliable. I'm also sending that barreled action out for another barrel in 25 creed so I can run comps with it during the summer and switch back for deer in the '06. I'm really looking forward to the 131 at 3k from 42gr of H4350. that's 10gr less powder than the '06 for way more LR performance.
Also, you may be able to get a 130gr 6.5 up to 3k, but that 130gr 6.5 won't have anywhere near the BC as the 131 257.
Also, you may be able to get a 130gr 6.5 up to 3k, but that 130gr 6.5 won't have anywhere near the BC as the 131 257.
Um, are you telling me a 25 Creedmoor is getting anywhere near a 25.06, velocity?
Granted, the .257 131 bests a 130 6.5 for BC. But my 264 Win Mag runs them at 3200.
If someone gets that 131 near 3000 (not conjecture), I'd sure like to see the results.
86alaskan
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search "operation quarterlord" or sniper's hide article by coldboremiracle. He's been doing a lot of the in field testing and has gotten fantastic results from a 22" barreled Tikka T3. I'm not saying the creed and 131 will match the 25-06, just that it can be a very close race because the creed case is so much more efficient. you get 15gr more bullet, wway more BC and use 10gr less powder for only a 150fps loss to the 25-06 with a lighter bullet. For arguments sake, I'd be happy to load some 115 bergers when my new barrel arrives and give the speeds I get. I'll bet that 25 creed is right in the 25-06 kitchen.
First, hats off to everyone pushing the limits of the 25. We'll learn more because of what you are doing.
But daggon gents, alot of weight is being placed upon one bullet.
For instance, I ran a ballistic calc of a .257 bullet, weight 131 grs., .661 G1 BC, leaving the barrel at 2950 fps. It arrives at a 500 yard target with 1480 ft. lbs of energy. In a 10 mph crosswind, it will drift approximately 12.7".
A .264 bullet, weight 130 grs. .571 G1 BC, leaving the barrel at 3200 fps. Arriving on a 500 yard target with 1627 ft. lbs of energy with 13.4" inches of drift in a 10 mph crosswind.
But daggon gents, alot of weight is being placed upon one bullet.
For instance, I ran a ballistic calc of a .257 bullet, weight 131 grs., .661 G1 BC, leaving the barrel at 2950 fps. It arrives at a 500 yard target with 1480 ft. lbs of energy. In a 10 mph crosswind, it will drift approximately 12.7".
A .264 bullet, weight 130 grs. .571 G1 BC, leaving the barrel at 3200 fps. Arriving on a 500 yard target with 1627 ft. lbs of energy with 13.4" inches of drift in a 10 mph crosswind.
