I don't think so.. it because it's b entertaining or worse. But because of Hornady and advertising.
6.5 PRC question VS 264win.
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WildRose
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You have to remember that when the .264 hit the ground running, the only bullets available were 90-130gr other than the RN 160 which would also stabilize in the 9tw.
I know a couple of guys who have .264's they bought in the last five years with 8tw barrels but they may have special ordered them out of the custom shop.
fisherman983
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Go with a prc when your 264 burns out..
I'm on my 4th barrel for my custom 264, and have had at least 2 rifles chambered in 264 for awhile and adding a 3rd soon. I've killed almost everything in north America with a 264 and multiple types of bullets.
That being said, my next build is going to be a prc.
Unfortunately there just isn't the quality components as readily available as the prc.
I will always have a 264 in my safe.
The prc can't or won't keep up with it in any capacity but barrel life
I'm on my 4th barrel for my custom 264, and have had at least 2 rifles chambered in 264 for awhile and adding a 3rd soon. I've killed almost everything in north America with a 264 and multiple types of bullets.
That being said, my next build is going to be a prc.
Unfortunately there just isn't the quality components as readily available as the prc.
I will always have a 264 in my safe.
The prc can't or won't keep up with it in any capacity but barrel life
codyadams
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ADG 7 mag brass is all you need, everything else is the same of course.
Also (to anyone) if you go PRC, and you plan on reloading, make sure you get the proper chamber. One of my friends had the "clicker" problems that is often seen with the PRC's, it is a pretty common issue. More about it here -
The PRC die "problem"
There are a number of people experiencing sizing issues with the PRC case. When designing a chamber, brass, and resize die there is no one size fits all. We want good hard case brass, but its harder to size. We dont want sloppy chambers either. I have experience with designing reamers with...
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I've never done any necking down on cases yut yea, adg 7 mag would be pretty good stuff to use...ADG 7 mag brass is all you need, everything else is the same of course.
Also (to anyone) if you go PRC, and you plan on reloading, make sure you get the proper chamber. One of my friends had the "clicker" problems that is often seen with the PRC's, it is a pretty common issue. More about it here -
The PRC die "problem"
There are a number of people experiencing sizing issues with the PRC case. When designing a chamber, brass, and resize die there is no one size fits all. We want good hard case brass, but its harder to size. We dont want sloppy chambers either. I have experience with designing reamers with...www.longrangehunting.com
Also run the prc in a medium or long action and get the real performance out of it...
If I don't see the performance I want from a prc, I'll be going back to a 264. I will never not have one in the safe
codyadams
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Absolutely. For a medium action they would be a really good option for sure, or like rebarreling a Tikka or other factory long action that is on the short side. If your uses require headstamped brass, then a .264 wm makes it a little harder to find great brass, Norma is ok, but from my experience, not on par with ADG, Peterson, or Lapua.
I use 7 mag ADG brass in my father's .264 wm, saami chamber. It was a simple run through the die, load and shoot, and it has been fantastic.
fisherman983
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Sounds pretty easy... I may be picking your brain at some point about this later.
I'm actually running some PPU 264WM brass and I'm surprised at how good it is. It's not ADG, Peterson or Lapua but it's better than I expected and it's very reasonably priced.
One thing to note, new PPU brass holds 80.2 grains of water, ADG 7mm necked down is 81.4 and Peterson 7mm necked down is 82.2 according to my scales.
Hard rock
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The 264 win mag will have more fps than the 6.5 prc , maybe 100 too 150 fps with a experienced hand loader like myself , but it will take 10 more grains of powder too do it . A friend of mine just built a 264 win mag and we compare notes all the time . We shoot the same bullets and my max loads produce about the same as his max loads.It could be the brass ,powder choice , free bore , loading techniques etc . There really is not a noticeable difference from my experience too matter. So far the 6.5 prc has exceeded all expectations.
WildRose
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The .264wm for me is a nostalgia thing. It was the first widely accepted 6.5 in the US and it was far ahead of it's time along with unfortunately barrel and ballistic tech.
That being said if I were to build one tomorrow I'd have to go with the PRC for practicality's sake especially if it were to be my only 6.5 or "hunting rifle" period.
The PRC is the future, the Winnie the past and the mass manufacturers will produce what they can sell the most of before worrying about producing for low volume obsolete cartridges.
The ^.5 PRC is the new Technology.. The old Belted 264 Win Mag is Old.. I would not want to fool with a belted cartridge. Much less a Magnum Cartridge. .The 264 Win Mag was good in its day.. But our ammo and barrels have come a Long ways .I would doubt if a person could buy a 264 Win Mag off the shelf and even come close to the 6.5 PRC .
1st thing the 264 would need to bere4tapped to accept a longer bullet to compete. Then the Belted case..Mo
There are alot of people who love it..Just like the 7mm Rem Mag..KIts also a belted Magnum. .Its slipping away though..I own a 7mm Rem Mag.When I bought my 1st in the mid 1977's because it was the biggest,
Whether its Fad, Form or Function or just Performance.. If a person wants to see what out shoots what.. Check out the list of top shooters in ELR.. and who is shooting which cartridge. The 6.5 PRC will be in the top 10..I dont remember seeing the 264 Win Mag even making the list anywhere. I could be wrong but I just read it about 10 days ago.
Final thoughts..it todays world we breed Faster Horses,Build Faster Cars and better guns and faster and better ammo with better BC's and better Powder..So its really not that hard of choice.. IMO ..Numbers dont lie.
1st thing the 264 would need to bere4tapped to accept a longer bullet to compete. Then the Belted case..Mo
There are alot of people who love it..Just like the 7mm Rem Mag..KIts also a belted Magnum. .Its slipping away though..I own a 7mm Rem Mag.When I bought my 1st in the mid 1977's because it was the biggest,
Whether its Fad, Form or Function or just Performance.. If a person wants to see what out shoots what.. Check out the list of top shooters in ELR.. and who is shooting which cartridge. The 6.5 PRC will be in the top 10..I dont remember seeing the 264 Win Mag even making the list anywhere. I could be wrong but I just read it about 10 days ago.
Final thoughts..it todays world we breed Faster Horses,Build Faster Cars and better guns and faster and better ammo with better BC's and better Powder..So its really not that hard of choice.. IMO ..Numbers dont lie.
You mean seated out like this? And improved too? And even set up to headspace off the shoulder instead of the belt?
Oh those horrible belts.
I just don't understand the hate for the belt. Yeah I guess the fat belt less cartridges look sexier but I'm not sure they shoot any better.
I picked the .264 WM over PRC and WSM. My .264 WM has 26" 5R 1:7" specifically built for the 156 Berger. It is what "I" wanted, whether it is popular or not or made to some listing.
I, too, am using PPU on my .264 WM.
