6.5 prc elk bullet poll!

[Rocketeer77]

I don't think you need too worry , there is a lot of proof they work pretty well . I wish when someone makes a statement like that they would give more detail so it could be open for discussion , that's how we learn , it's called constructive criticism. Everyone has their preferences for one reason or the other right or wrong.

Polite on topic rebuttal takes far too much effort

 

[Rocketeer77]

"ELD m's are not a hunting bullet that is unethical and totally wrong have a nice day"


I don't hunt with ELD-Ms, so I don't have dog in the fight. That said, what I've experienced, learned by quietly reading and by hearing firsthand hunting accounts has lead me to these conclusions:

1. Most hunters who hate ELD-Ms inevitably have never seen an ELD-M in action and are basing their opinion totally on internet folklore.

2. Most hunters who hate ELD-Ms seem to actually believe there is such a thing as a perfect bullet, that never fails.

3. Most hunters who hate ELD-Ms have no understanding of what kind of role serendipity plays in mankind's success.

Serendipity:
(sĕr′ən-dĭp′ĭ-tē)
n. pl. ser·en·dip·i·ties
1. The faculty of making fortunate discoveries by accident.

Sometimes things do what they are not supposed to do.

Here in NZ a number of good hunters use the ELD-M successfully, to me that says the ELD-X as a hunting projectile is simply more a marketing ploy. This is only on thin skinned deer etc BTW, they're certainly accurate but they both tend blow up? Horses for courses I guess

 

[Rocketeer77]

Wonder if the logic applies to Viagra. It was developed as a cardiovascular medication. They discovered it had some other benefits and changed the label. Presumably if berger or another "target" bullet put a hunting label on the box......everything is just ducky.

I have no opinion on the OP's bullet conundrum. Not a fan of the 6.5 cal.

What's the reasoning behind not liking the 6.5 calibre, having owned a few and still do my opinion is the opposite. Since the 6.5 CR arrived it seems to have really polarised opinions? I don't own one but do use the 6.5 x 55 CZ & 6.5 PRC Tikka use 130's on the CZ and 150's in the Tikka. My two cents worth...

 

[Yuktuk]

Wonder if the logic applies to Viagra. It was developed as a cardiovascular medication. They discovered it had some other benefits and changed the label. Presumably if berger or another "target" bullet put a hunting label on the box......everything is just ducky.

I have no opinion on the OP's bullet conundrum. Not a fan of the 6.5 cal.

Viagra is a perfect example of serendipity.
Somethings just work really well for applications, other than their originally engineered purpose.
The pharmaceutical industry produces countless drugs that are greatly beneficial in ways not foreseen during their development.
Many 'target' bullets have been discovered to be exceptionally effective for hunting. Who cares what the box says.
Never let a name fool you.

 

[Allen Kitts]

The 131 gr Hammers were designed for 6.5PRC with 1 in 7.5.

.264 Cal-137gr Hammer Hunter™ - Hammer Bullets

Recommended twist is 1-6.5" or faster Bullet length is 1.565" Nose length is .8736" Bullet weight is 139gr Recommended use: Big game hunting G7-BC=.280 estimated

hammerbullets.com

Sorry if I misstated something, I was going off of the info on the website.

 

[Wolf76]

Viagra is a perfect example of serendipity.
Somethings just work really well for applications, other than their originally engineered purpose.
The pharmaceutical industry produces countless drugs that are greatly beneficial in ways not foreseen during their development.
Many 'target' bullets have been discovered to be exceptionally effective for hunting. Who cares what the box says.
Never let a name fool you.

This was the point I was attempting to make in response a previous post.

 

[Wolf76]

What's the reasoning behind not liking the 6.5 calibre, having owned a few and still do my opinion is the opposite. Since the 6.5 CR arrived it seems to have really polarised opinions? I don't own one but do use the 6.5 x 55 CZ & 6.5 PRC Tikka use 130's on the CZ and 150's in the Tikka. My two cents worth...

Doesn't check any boxes for me and don't see the benefit. Kinda likes redheads...just not my thing. No hate for either.

 

[Magnum44270]

142 or 150g ABLR

 

[30378wbymag]

How do you pack that much meat out?

Don't ya know? Pat and Bend---- Pat them feet and Bend them knees!!! One step at a time! Nice Bull!!!

 

[Allen Kitts]

I don't think you need too worry , there is a lot of proof they work pretty well . I wish when someone makes a statement like that they would give more detail so it could be open for discussion , that's how we learn , it's called constructive criticism. Everyone has their preferences for one reason or the other right or wrong.

Thanks Hard rock, I have hunted with hammers for a couple of years now and have had no issues with them. All the animals shot were dead within five to ten yards. None have made it out of sight. I will clarify that all of the were Deer, Antelope and Coyotes. I don't generally take my 6.5 PRC or 6.5 x 284 elk hunting, not because I don't think it can handle the job but just because I have to many different calibers and always want to try something different. I was just hoping to hear what the guy had to say on his issues with the hammers. I hate to see a product talked down without explaining why they don't like it or what the issue was.

 

[richhymas]

None of the above... 147 eldm's....

I would be really careful with any ELD-M for elk. Super soft. Shot 3 elk with the 225 ELD Match.
1) 200 yard Broadside heart shot with no exit. Mush inside
2) 250 yard shoulder shot smashed the bone, found 3 quarter sized pieces of shoulder bone and 2 miles of muscle blood but dried up. Elk was still alive the next day. Never recovered it.
3) 600 yard shot quartered away. Back of the base of skull, DRT but even at 600 yards no exit.

And these are with 212 grain ELD-M
Word to the size. For elk sized critters STAY OFF BONE!

I would never hunt elk with a 147 ELD-M. For elk I prefer something that penetrates better with more mass.

 

[GSSPatterning]

None of the above bullets!

 

[WYO300RUM]

Here is evidence of the results of a 168 grain Barnes ttsx traveling at 3326 ft/second from a 300 Win Mag. Full pass through 1-shot kill with the off leg broken as well… I won't be changing anytime soon!View attachment 405582

What's does that have to do with thread topic . I polaxed a bull elk here in 2008 at 543 yds with a 180 Barnes TTSX with a 300 RUM at 3360 fps . Woo hoo ! We are talking 6.5 PRC. All I've used in mine are 156 Berger and 124 Hammers. So I'm following and learning.

 

[WYO300RUM]

Try the Nolser ABLR in 150gr I get 2,900 fps with Tikka T3X and 24" OEM barrel...
I also believe once you're 300 + metres then the heavier projectile is superior

Working with it.