You're like me on the calibers for different animals . I don't like the idea of being undergunned or experimenting with less powerful calibers on elk etc.Thanks Hard rock, I have hunted with hammers for a couple of years now and have had no issues with them. All the animals shot were dead within five to ten yards. None have made it out of sight. I will clarify that all of the were Deer, Antelope and Coyotes. I don't generally take my 6.5 PRC or 6.5 x 284 elk hunting, not because I don't think it can handle the job but just because I have to many different calibers and always want to try something different. I was just hoping to hear what the guy had to say on his issues with the hammers. I hate to see a product talked down without explaining why they don't like it or what the issue was.
Especially at close ranges where they tend to be pretty explosive.I would stay away from bone with the 147 but a good choice.
I have always shot elk in shoulder with Barnes TSX and TTSX. They are DRT. I wouldn't with a Berger or ELDX and maybe not a Nosler LRAB. I would with a regular Accubond. Have 180 Hammer/300 win mag set up for elk here. General season over but still have a cow tag. Taking it and 300 RUM to Az. Late bull hunt with 215 Berger. What my CDS dial is set up for. Dam. Philies scored . 5 to 5. Go Astro's !Especially at close ranges where they tend to be pretty explosive.
Put it through the lungs though and you have a dead critter.
Personally, being more of a fan of mono's every year on that list I'd take the Hammers and punch the shoulders/spine so they drop in their tracks.
Yes, just stick with behind the shoulder shots. Keep away from the shoulder and legAre these good at shorter ranges too?
How did the bullet fail exactly? Were both it and the animal recovered?I'm curious. Does this logic apply to all bullets or just target bullets? If a bullet fails does that mean it shouldn't be used going forward?
Twist rates are a limiting factor, other than that I can't say.Here's my question for you hammer fans, In the 6.5 weather it is a creed or a PRC why don't you ever hear of anyone using a 140gr. Hammer. I would think it would be a awesome bullet choice in the PRC!
It performs the same function on both the scalp and heart, increased circulation.Wonder if the logic applies to Viagra. It was developed as a cardiovascular medication. They discovered it had some other benefits and changed the label. Presumably if berger or another "target" bullet put a hunting label on the box......everything is just ducky.
I have no opinion on the OP's bullet conundrum. Not a fan of the 6.5 cal.
Sound thinking. When considering bullets think of shot placement and how tough skinned and bodied your prey is as well as shot placement and it eliminates lots of problems.I have always shot elk in shoulder with Barnes TSX and TTSX. They are DRT. I wouldn't with a Berger or ELDX and maybe not a Nosler LRAB. I would with a regular Accubond. Have 180 Hammer/300 win mag set up for elk here. General season over but still have a cow tag. Taking it and 300 RUM to Az. Late bull hunt with 215 Berger. What my CDS dial is set up for. Dam. Philies scored . 5 to 5. Go Astro's !
Thanks for comments everyone. Wish I had a 300 but all I have to work with is the 6.5 prc for now. I'm going to stick with the hammers and I'll report back after the hunt. Cheers
You are right people think they are tanks or something. People rarely admit misses, bad shots, or bad bullet choice. A elk's shoulder blade is very thin around 2/10" thick or less depending on the size of the bull elk. I heard all the time how tough elk are. Yet with a good bullet and shot placement they go down hard and fast every time.Next time you guys hammer a big bull elk trim the meat off the scapula that is defeating all these high powered rifle projectiles, then examine for a moment how incredibly thin it is.
Time for some folks to admit they miss more than they think and gut shot a bunch of game "RiGhT iN ThE sHoUlDER"