Man, I don't even know what to vote on. I've killed many animals but I've used many different combinations. I've taken 2 elk, one with a Berger, (shot him 3 times) thought I somehow managed to miss the first 2, only to find out I stacked them right in the boiler room, He was just dead on his feet and dropped in his tracks. (300 yards). Second elk, roughly 80-90 yards, hammer 196. Shot him 1 time, he stood just like the first one with bergers, but this time my brain wasn't working and I forgot to "keep shooting" after about 3 second I realized I should shoot again he ran….. about 50 yards downhill and died. I imagine I could have shot both animals with either bullet and got the same result. This year, I'm going to be taking out some badlands bullets, it's just really hard to ignore the BC… but hammers will be in my backup rifle.