What constitutes “inherently accurate “?

[MudRunner2005]

Hornady seem to be the front runner in developing new cartridges that are well designed. I like Hornady bullets and while they do have small room for improvement, I cannot complain about them. Lapua is still the front runner but not only producer of premium brass. If Hornady would buy out a small company that makes premium brass and sell it at a profitable price point, they would be a dominant force for years to come and the long range community would benefit as well. Remington ammo Winchester ammo still appeals to many people and for good reasons such as price point but they may find themselves in still in the dark ages in the near future. Hornady has been the leader in r&d here lately, employing features that benchrest & long range reloaders pioneered. Their endeavors into that have paid off with the 6.5 creedmoor. Sometimes I do get sick of the marketing hype but never the less I want to see their success with cartridges like 6.5 prc and 300 prc even though I do not plan in shooting one, there development & success benefits the long range shooting community as a whole.

None of their cartridges are "new". They're all rebranded wildcats that they tweaked 1 or 2 small things, gave it a catchy "market-test" approved name, and then sent off for SAAMI spec testing. That's their entire cartridge "development" in a nutshell.

That's why I find it hilarious when the unwashed masses eat this crap up like it's the greatest thing ever made, and as if it's some amazing new thing Hornady's cartridge wizard alchemists cooked up, despite the stolen base wildcat being 20-30+ years old.

 

[Canhunter35]

I've swapped from large to small primers in two chamberings and will never go back, it shaved a lot of my 308 at 1500 yards, I can run them a little harder maybe but I'm so close to where I ran the large primer cases it's not by much, but my ES was better and vertical is LOW!

It's the performance in cold that doesn't have me switching to small primers

 

[GunHawk]

Looks like there is some confounding of "cartridge" and "bullet", even though we all know better. So, if a cartridge is just a combination of components, then any given cartridge has the potential to be accurate in one rifle setup, but not as accurate in some others. Then the most "inherently accurate" cartridge should be one that has better overall accuracy in several rifles than other cartridges.

 

[FEENIX]

Like it or not Hornady's innovative approach = success.

 

[TwoMore]

they have been sellin some stuff!

 

[FEENIX]

they have been sellin some stuff!

$ales is an excellent indicator of how well an organization is doing.

 

[MudRunner2005]

Like it or not Hornady's innovative approach = success.

To say otherwise would be idiotic... Obviously the mass-deception is working. Otherwise they would change up their M.O.

 

[Deleted member 48126]

To say otherwise would be idiotic... Obviously the mass-deception is working. Otherwise they would change up their M.O.

This isn't the Democratic Party we are talking about here lol

 

[TwoMore]

lol i just spit out my water

 

[MudRunner2005]

$ales is an excellent indicator of how well an organization is doing.

Or how little the public knows about the proverbial "man hiding behind the curtain" back in Oz. The more ignorant (naive) someone is about something, the easier it is to trick them. They know not many folks wildcat, or know much about cartridges or their histories, so they can easily get away with ripping off non-copywritten designs. They're just preying on the masses...Most all big business objectives are executed in the same exact manner. It's nothing new...It just is what it is, which is why I keep pointing it out. The more people we can educate on this charade, the more people will become able to recognize patterns of deception in the future.

 

[MudRunner2005]

This isn't the Democratic Party we are talking about here lol

You sure? They still haven't changed anything up in almost 200 years, other than now they try to hide their racism, while also spouting racist remarks in the same breath.

 

[Quintus]

As one of the great unwashed I am happy Hornady is so tricky. They spurred a plethora of new 6.5 projectile options. They have given me an ammo and brass supply of the fantastic, but near extinct 6.5 Rem Mag in the equivalent 6.5 PRC - and a selection of great factory, readily available rifles. They have become a great catalyst for volumes of ballistics and performance discussion. They have also, with the pub of the Creed gotten a huge new demographic interested in match shooting. Those evil tricksters, drawing all this positive attention to the shooting sports! If only we could just go back to the days of the 30 US! I'm sure we'd have the support and funding to defend against the anti-gunners then. Just to be clear, without the gunmakers and a flourishing shooting industry the second amendment would be a memory. A distant memory. Thanks Roy, thanks Bill, thanks ATK Federal, thanks Colt, and so on. Sorry about the side track.

 

[FEENIX]

To say otherwise would be idiotic... Obviously the mass-deception is working. Otherwise they would change up their M.O.

I see that you are now a business expert too!

 

[FEENIX]

Or how little the public knows about the proverbial "man hiding behind the curtain" back in Oz. The more ignorant (naive) someone is about something, the easier it is to trick them. They know not many folks wildcat, or know much about cartridges or their histories, so they can easily get away with ripping off non-copywritten designs. They're just preying on the masses...Most all big business objectives are executed in the same exact manner. It's nothing new...It just is what it is, which is why I keep pointing it out. The more people we can educate on this charade, the more people will become able to recognize patterns of deception in the future.

Are you saying it is not an indicator?