Reloader 26 in 6.5 creedmoor

I don't have the new second Edition Berger reloading book. I only have the first edition. It doesn't have reloader 26 in it. I'll have to get that. Thanks.
It's on Bergers website under resources/reloading something like that. The 2nd edition hasn't come out.
 
Berger lists 49.8 Rl26, 47.7 with IMR 7828 ssc and a 135 grain bullet.
I took the condescending second half of post #428 as someone who wants to argue. My bad if I took it wrong. I have loaded for a long time and haven't had any issues but I will continue to be careful.
I do understand. It's easy to take things out of content in a email//chat forum. It has been a heck of a ride sense I been reloading and shooting. I thank a lot of reloading data on here is from a custom action. So for someone who just bought a new rifle ( none custom ) and just getting into reloading may not know the difference and exceed max pressure from their standard action.
 
I have loaded for about 20 years and I load for a bunch of rifles. I guess sometimes I forget some newbie shooter might pull data off just about anywhere and try it. Most of us know to drop a charge 10% or even more to start. There are other factors as well, what COAL a guy is running if he graphite's his necks, jams the bullet into the lands and the list goes on. Anyway I saw this thread and struggled to believe the numbers, so I get where you're coming from. I decided to try it and was shocked with results. Like shep said try RL26 in your 6.5-284 or terminator, I'll bet you'll like the results. Anyway have a good evening and hopefully no hard feelings.


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I have loaded for about 20 years and I load for a bunch of rifles. I guess sometimes I forget some newbie shooter might pull data off just about anywhere and try it. Most of us know to drop a charge 10% or even more to start. There are other factors as well, what COAL a guy is running if he graphite's his necks, jams the bullet into the lands and the list goes on. Anyway I saw this thread and struggled to believe the numbers, so I get where you're coming from. I decided to try it and was shocked with results. Like shep said try RL26 in your 6.5-284 or terminator, I'll bet you'll like the results. Anyway have a good evening and hopefully no hard feelings.


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No hard feelings sir. You have a good night as well.
 
No hard feelings sir. You have a good night as well.
Hornaday 6.5cm has the same capacity as peterson or alpha 260. Lapua 260 will have a little more. In my nephews 20" Tikka 6.5cm, I loaded up to 50.2 gr rl26 w/ 143s in once fired Hornady brass to where it finally showed light ejector, this clocked 289Xfps.....from a 20" barrel! Now a Tikka creed has at least 100k more freebore than saami. A 156 berger in the Tikka chamber seated 80k from lands still has the shank @ the nk shoulder junction. I'm having a new 6.5 prc barrel cut and will likely add another 75k freebore.
 
My buddy and I are loading for six 6.5CM rifles for ourselves and our boys. 3 are Remingtons with 24" and 3 are Kimbers with 22" barrels. Using Hornady previously fired brass, RL26 and 140 ELD-M, 5 of those rifles run @ 3000+fps with~50gr. (all 3 Remingtons and one Kimber). One Kimber is more a more expected 2950fps range. On the last Kimber pressure comes early and it loads out at maybe 48.5gr where it starts to show pressure and ~2900fps. RL26 is 100-200fps faster than any other powder we have tried to similar pressures. Capacities have to work though. It is magic with heavy bullets in the CM until you can't stuff enough powder in. Not as big a difference on lighter bullets as you run out of case before pressure. It should work the same way on other cartridges if the capacity matches.

We have Lapua SRP brass for our two rifles but haven't played with it yet. I use Lapua in a 6CM chassis and that brass is a lot less internal volume but very nice.
 
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You will probably max out near 48.5 or thereabouts with the lapua srp brass. It's all I use in my 1000 yard guns. For my hunting rifles I use ADG. I found the srp brass finicky in the cold. The Hornady brass will definitely get you a touch more speed but at the expense of brass life. I tried it once and gave 150 pieces of new brass to a friend who likes it. I fully prep brass including turning the necks and velocity sort them for my 1k guns so I want 12 shots each on those babies. My friend shoots them Hornady brass 4 to 5 times and throws them out and starts over. In the end the price is about the same per shot per case but I only need to prep once. One barrel. 200 cases. And a box of 2000 147eldms. I set my barrel back 3 times and they get turned into hunting barrels after 2000 rounds. Even after 2000 rounds those barrels still shoot under 1/2 moa.
Shep
 
I'm amazed your getting over 3k with the 140s. I've never shot them. I bulk buy the 147s so that's what I use. The 147s kill deer great too. And I get .690 on the bc for them in my 8 twist barrels. Maybe you could get .697 with a 7.5. So far I haven't found a single Creed that wouldn't shoot this bullet good. But I can't get them over 3k in hunting length barrels. That's why I'm trying the super Creed in a 24 inch barrel. My goal is to get 3k from the 147 and brass life.
Shep
 
Don't like arguing. You just can't put 49 or 48 grains of powder in something that can only hold 45 grains. That is with a 140 to 143 grain bullet. That's why I said. Load at your own risk.

After 32 pages, I figured I would chime in.

I just worked up a load in my 6.5 creedmoor Kimber Classic 22". 44-49 gr RL26 with 143 ELD-X at 2.80" COAL.

Velocity with a Magnetospeed.

49 gr is a very compressed load, as the powder is 1/2 way up the neck. Bullet seated easy without a lot of crunching and the COAL didn't change.

No pressure signs on the brass. No heavy bolt lift. Slightly flat primers. 63Kpsi per Quickload with my H2O capacity (Starline LRP brass).

RL26 is a much denser powder than others, that's how you can fit so much in. Don't confuse weight (grains) with volume.
 

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Try swirling in the powder then vibrate with a toothbrush. 50gr in Hornady brass is all but to the top of the neck if just dropped in. Swirled gets the the bottom 1/2 or lower on the neck. vibrating to the bottom of the neck. The load is then slightly compressed. Without consolidating the powder, it would be a major crunch. Again this is Hornady brass. As we go back an forth on this getting so close to case capacity it is going to vary a lot with different brands brass and rifles. Just because it works in some of my rifles doesn't mean it will in yours. I have to be super careful just between my Kimber and my son's. What is safe in mine is dangerous in his. I may run a reamer in his barrel as it is really on the tight side.
 
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