Of most of the scopes you guys have mentioned here there is one in particular that I personally would NOT purchase.
Any Leupold VX-III or VX3 period. Have had some leupy's (multiple models) the past few years and they spent most of their time in a USPS mail bag.
Would not track elevation correctly. One would not track plumb, as you raised elevation it tracked right (yes scope was installed plumb & level. Had one that crosshairs let go on 7STW, next shot looked thru and crosshairs were X.
If I were buying a leupold today I would look for a serial number made back when in a Vari-X III.
4 years ago bought my first Sightron in a SII 3x9x40 (IMO still the best $200 ever made) for one of the kids .243. Impressed enough to buy a couple of more then the Big Sky hit the scene.
I have since upgraded all my guns to Big Sky models and have not had one yet go back to Sightron.
I never even looked thru a SIII (never cared much for the reticules) but if the glass is same or better quality than Big Sky's they would be truly impressive.
Sightrons all the way for me. Just got a 4.5x14x50 Big Sky (had'nt been out of box yet), but bought it now to get the $75 rebate for all bought before March 1st. Including rebate got less than $420 in it to the door.
I know scopes have followers so this is MHO.
i got to play with a burris xtr and i was not impressed with the clarity, i didnt feel as if it were as clear as a vx-2 on the same power, but then again it may have been me.i like my leupold vxiii 8.5-25 about $1k or you can go burris xtr or bushnell elite 3200 10x40mm
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But how many of these people run the turrets up and down hundreds or even thousands of times per year? How many of them regularly shoot to 1000 yds or beyond?One thing you see a lot Leupold scopes on rifles on other outdoor shows who aren't even being sponsered by Leupold.
If the stories are hyperbole at best and you don't believe them, you are calling him and everybody else a liar. If you want to stick your head in the sand and think anybody finding a Leupold scope with an issue is lying, that's your choice. Not the most open minded approach, but whatever makes you happy.Not saying you are lying, but the stories I have heard about Leupolds being lemons are at best hyperbole. Quite frankly I don't believe most of them.
And they all use them as described above?I have many friends that have Leupolds only, and to a person, no one, I repeat, no one has ever had to send theirs in for faulty equipment.
Oh, might as well post this here: my buddy from Leupold got back to me. He said that if I have a 3 degree cant, in any scope, send it in, because he is sure Leupold will fix that.
Maybe you don't realize this, but among boards where people actually use their scopes for LR, this is board is really quite friendly to Leupold. Don't go look at the tactical boards. Lots of "hyperbole" on those!It just makes me wonder about some of the stories I hear on here.
but how many of these people run the turrets up and down hundreds or even thousands of times per year? How many of them regularly shoot to 1000 yds or beyond?
They're also the best thing ever on most hunting boards where 300 yds is "long range" and anything farther is "unethical."
frankly, the opinions of people who don't use a scope the way i do mean very little to me.
If the stories are hyperbole at best and you don't believe them, you are calling him and everybody else a liar. If you want to stick your head in the sand and think anybody finding a leupold scope with an issue is lying, that's your choice. Not the most open minded approach, but whatever makes you happy.
And they all use them as described above?
What did he say about letting them leave the factory that way in the first place? Since all the tactical guys are just making stuff up, have him look here: canted reticles — serious problem needs to be addressed « daily bulletin
maybe you don't realize this, but among boards where people actually use their scopes for lr, this is board is really quite friendly to leupold. Don't go look at the tactical boards. Lots of "hyperbole" on those!
Not saying you are lying, but the stories I have heard about Leupolds being lemons are at best hyperbole. Quite frankly I don't believe most of them.
I have many friends that have Leupolds only, and to a person, no one, I repeat, no one has ever had to send theirs in for faulty equipment. Several have dented or cracked them and had them replaced for free though.
Oh, might as well post this here: my buddy from Leupold got back to me. He said that if I have a 3 degree cant, in any scope, send it in, because he is sure Leupold will fix that. He put it this way, 'if you are in any way unhappy with your purchase, we will make it right.' It just makes me wonder about some of the stories I hear on here.
Clearly you don't. I have very little use for Sightron unless I take up BR shooting or move to a place with lots of P-dogs as they're all SFP. I don't have to like them at all to recognize the information you were giving about them, based upon never looking through the model in question outdoors, was incorrect.I get it Jon, you like Sightron. I GET IT!
It is interesting that you claimed Leupold won't fix a cant (if any exist to 3 degrees at all), and now backtrack to 'well maybe they will, but why aren't they leaving the factory better?'. Which is it?? Pretty simple.