MOA vs MIL

[User4302021]

When used correctly, MOA and MILS are used exactly the same way. If you had a tape measure in meters, it would be easy to measure meters. It would be used in exactly the same way as a tape measure in inches and yards.

The reason people "understand" MOA and can't understand MILS is because they are misusing the MOA they think they know in the first place. They see a miss and take a guess at the linear distance, and then translate that to and approximate MOA adjustment.

To use either one properly, linear distances don't enter in. NO one says to their self, "That is 500 yards.... That is 45 inches of drop.... 5.23 inches at 500 yards is 1 MOA,.....45 inches divided by 5.23 equals 8.6,... so I need 8.6 MOA...".

They don't do it that way. They automatically think of their drop in MOA because that is how it was learned and memorized or written down. When it comes to drop, you just go straight to the end and say, "My 500 yard drop is 8.6 MOA".

When adjusting for wind or a miss, the same thinking should also apply. You didn't miss by 1 foot, you missed by however many MOA. Make the MOA adjustment and send another round.

That is why MILS works just as easy with yards as it does with meters. If one were so inclined, it would be equally easy to use MOA with meters.

 

[ValleyPursuits]

All my scopes are MOA but MILs would work just as well. We measure in metres here but rangefinders and ballistic apps can handle all combinations of yards/metres and MOA/MILS.

 

[wolfmaan]

Are we Americans or not.

 

[RockyMtnMT]

So at this point pour small sample is advantage moa at 70%.

The only thing I can think of that drives the scope industry to favor mils in the upper end scope options is military training.

 

[ruraltexas]

I run both types. Each scope has its own app. I just dial what the ballistics app says, no need to worry about doing the math, converting yards to meters. I can enter distance to target in either yards or meters in each app.

 

[RockyMtnMT]

I run both types. Each scope has its own app. I just dial what the ballistics app says, no need to worry about doing the math, converting yards to meters. I can enter distance to target in either yards or meters in each app.

That party is easy. Where I have trouble, as an moa guy, is calling corrections to poi.

 

[PPD7800]

Are we Americans or not.

Not sure how that has anything to do with MIL vs. MOA. MIL works for both metric and imperial.

Anyway, I don't have a huge preference anymore until reticle selection comes into play. Then I prefer the Horus, especially the TReMor2 or 3. At this point I have an equal number of scopes at this in both MOA & MIL.

 

[Beardeddeer91]

I prefer mils, my brain can handle the base of 10 better than 4. Like 300whisper pointed out I think of adjustments in the Mils not inches, and most of the guys I shoot with do the same. This makes it much easier than trying to convert from one measure to another. The important thing for me is to pick one and stick with it. I had a couple MOA scopes and switching from one to another in a shooting session was a pain, so all Mil for me now.

 

[kc0yef]

you don't have an option for Both...

 

[RockyMtnMT]

At request I added another polling option for both. Change your vote if you like.

 

[Canhunter35]

I have both, more Moa scopes than Mils, but I prefer Mils. I find it easier to make wind calls with tenths of a mil than half of an moa.
Also the numbers on moa get so large, dialing up 63.75moa and making an 18.5moa wind call gets large.
Next scope I buy will be in Mils

 

[Deleted member 48126]

I have both, more Moa scopes than Mils, but I prefer Mils. I find it easier to make wind calls with tenths of a mil than half of an moa.
Also the numbers on moa get so large, dialing up 63.75moa and making an 18.5moa wind call gets large.
Next scope I buy will be in Mils

18.5 moa wind call?!

 

[lancetkenyon]

MILs here. On every rifle, even my rimfire squirrel getters.

 

[RockyMtnMT]

MILs here. On every rifle, even my rimfire squirrel getters.

Is that because you learned with mils or prefer it?