Meanwhile on RS they're killin bear, deer, elk , and moose with .223 and 77gr TMK.

[xsn10s]

You won't catch a guide alive letting you use one of these p shooters on a AK grizzly or brown bear hunt, go figure?

Again taken out of context of my original post on this thread. But honestly when I went up their to hunt caribou I took a 30-06 the first time and a 45-70 the second time. the 45-70 was for bear protection and hunting caribou. But I've read the AR15 been used up there for bear protection and polar bear was stopped by a AR15.

 

[xsn10s]

Yes I have a 223 and use it.Just I would never grab it to elk hunt.Unless it was the only option .Ive also shot half my elk with archery, along with another 75+

I'd like to see terminal pictures of the .223/ 77 TMK compared to an elk taken with a bow. I dare say most people will shoot far more accurately with the .223 than a bow.

 

[Mike D Texas]

I'd like to see terminal pictures of the .223/ 77 TMK compared to an elk taken with a bow. I dare say most people will shoot far more accurately with the .223 than a bow.

What are you trying to compare here?

 

[xsn10s]

What are you trying to compare here?

Compare the trauma of an elk created by .223/ 77 TMK to that created by a bow and arrow.

 

[436]

Perfect test for an overbearing, controlling government to do. sounds like something they would do in Europe.

 

[Darryle]

Compare the trauma of an elk created by .223/ 77 TMK to that created by a bow and arrow.

Here you go

Deadliest Elk Shot Ever Caught On Camera

The latest bowhunting information about Deadliest Elk Shot Ever Caught On Camera .

www.bowhunting.com

YouTube video of the above article



Now guess which one had more edible meat

 

[Darryle]

Interesting observation, because that's my gut feeling about many of your posts as well. Especially when throwing in very strange comments about needing big caliber rifles to stop murderers...or however that random out of context post was supposed to be taken.

I think this was his tipping point

The Beverage Can (12 oz) has an overall height of 4.8" (12.2 cm) and diameter of 2.6" (6.62 cm).

Then you factor in you didn't take possession of your scope until October 20th. That was 39 days ago. Now, surely you have some job functions outside of time spent shooting. Secondly, you are shooting a "production" factory rifle, using factory ammunition and as far as we know, you have not taken a LR class other than with your co-workers and boss.

There are members here, not me of course, I can barely hit the toilet, with years of experience, years of range time, years spent perfecting their load data and with solid equipment specifically built for what they do and the number of those qualified members here that could pull off 20 for 20 on a 600yd beer can, well, you could probably use 1 hand maybe 2 tops.

I suck at math, excell at paying attention, useless trivia, smart *** remarks and inappropriate words often used in the most inappropriate situations, so, would one of the smart members here please extrapolate that out to MOA average please.

 

[Darryle]

I try Ed, truth is usually the best humor, in my case, it's kinda sad clown humor

Your post is hilarious

 

[memtb]

I'd like to see terminal pictures of the .223/ 77 TMK compared to an elk taken with a bow. I dare say most people will shoot far more accurately with the .223 than a bow.

I'm just guess'n here….the archery elk were shot at closer range! memtb

 

[xsn10s]

I'm just guess'n here….the archery elk were shot at closer range! memtb

There are people who take 75-80 yard shots at elk.

 

[memtb]

There are people who take 75-80 yard shots at elk.

And…..every now and then they are successful! But, I don't recommend it! memtb

 

[xsn10s]

And…..every now and then they are successful! But, I don't recommend it! memtb

And a .223 would be a chip shot at that distance.

 

[memtb]

And a .223 would be a chip shot at that distance.

I miss the relevance! As it would be with any firearm except perhaps a "smoothbore" musket!

That said, a heavy, very sharp arrow/broad head would likely equal or exceed the penetration of the .223! Two completely different killing methods.

In this example……it's a matter of accuracy not the killing potential of the projectile/broad head! memtb

 

[Beluebow]

the number of those qualified members here that could pull off 20 for 20 on a 600yd beer can,

That's gonna be a stupid small number with a hunting rifle in the best conditions.