Agreed. The atmosphere when I joined was much better and most threads were very valuable and I learned so much. I don't like to speak up in dumpster fires like this, but you read my mind with your comments. It's sad when legitimately valuable threads are started and get half the attention that something as lame as this is getting.Just got to say that when I joined this site 12ish years ago. This kind of manipulative sneeky gotcha kind of thread would be very frowned upon. Its not why im here its not why many people are here. The E word isnt welcome here and this thread said everything except that to try to "find the men of principle". Its garbage and im ashamed to have read the whole thing.