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It's a great caliber except I bought a Bergara and the accuracy was spotty. I sent it to Bergara for warranty work.
help me decide.... keep 7mm STW alive or move on to different caliber??
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It's a great caliber except I bought a Bergara and the accuracy was spotty. I sent it to Bergara for warranty work.
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I was an early adopter of the 7mm STW back in the early 90s when it was still a wildcat off the Rem 8mm. We used to make cases from 300 Weatherby cases by fire forming and necking down. Those cases didn't last long because of the classic belt area over worked issue. But back in the 90s there was no shortage of components. If you have all the stuff for the 7mm STW and barrel life left have a good brake put on it like a Terminator 2 and recoil is not an issue. There are still several manufactures of STW brass. If you stay with it buy enough to shoot out the barrel and your set for a few years.
The STW, RUM, 30-378, etc. were all born in the days where lighter fast stepping bullets ruled the school. This was because most hunters were using MPBR to correct for longer range shots and it worked pretty good. Well, in the last 12ish years there has been a seed change in the hunting field with the advent of very good affordable range-finders with ballistics built in, wind meters, and all kinds of ballistic apps MPBR is passe. So super-fast stepping bullets are no longer required to reach out and touch a critter. Now super accuracy and high BC heavy for caliber bullets that hold on to velocity way out there and handle wind better are ruling the school. This has opened up that 500yard-1000yard region for hunters willing to put in the wok to develop the skill and gear to shoot consistently accurate in that region. Of course, there are this that want to shoot farther and those that say you shouldn't even be shooting over 500.
That being said there are cartridges that solve many issues we have worked around for years and provide off-the-shelf incredible accuracy performance. For example, this podcast discusses such advantages and disadvantages of certain 7mm cartridges, and of course there is a load of other info out there as well. This is good starting point for a listen.
EP 127: Meet The New 7 PRC
Aaron, Landon & Neal Introduce the new 7 PRC cartridge from Hornady. They discuss specs and ballistic performance and compare it to the variety of popul ar 7mm cartridges including the 7 SAUM, 7 Rem Mag, 7 LRM and 28 Nosler. Aaron recounts the history of the introduction of the Gunwerks 7 LRM...
thanks for taking the time to put this helpful info together for me!I was an early adopter of the 7mm STW back in the early 90s when it was still a wildcat off the Rem 8mm. We used to make cases from 300 Weatherby cases by fire forming and necking down. Those cases didn't last long because of the classic belt area over worked issue. But back in the 90s there was no shortage of components. If you have all the stuff for the 7mm STW and barrel life left have a good brake put on it like a Terminator 2 and recoil is not an issue. There are still several manufactures of STW brass. If you stay with it buy enough to shoot out the barrel and your set for a few years.
The STW, RUM, 30-378, etc. were all born in the days where lighter fast stepping bullets ruled the school. This was because most hunters were using MPBR to correct for longer range shots and it worked pretty good. Well, in the last 12ish years there has been a seed change in the hunting field with the advent of very good affordable range-finders with ballistics built in, wind meters, and all kinds of ballistic apps MPBR is passe. So super-fast stepping bullets are no longer required to reach out and touch a critter. Now super accuracy and high BC heavy for caliber bullets that hold on to velocity way out there and handle wind better are ruling the school. This has opened up that 500yard-1000yard region for hunters willing to put in the wok to develop the skill and gear to shoot consistently accurate in that region. Of course, there are this that want to shoot farther and those that say you shouldn't even be shooting over 500.
That being said there are cartridges that solve many issues we have worked around for years and provide off-the-shelf incredible accuracy performance. For example, this podcast discusses such advantages and disadvantages of certain 7mm cartridges, and of course there is a load of other info out there as well. This is good starting point for a listen.
EP 127: Meet The New 7 PRC
Aaron, Landon & Neal Introduce the new 7 PRC cartridge from Hornady. They discuss specs and ballistic performance and compare it to the variety of popul ar 7mm cartridges including the 7 SAUM, 7 Rem Mag, 7 LRM and 28 Nosler. Aaron recounts the history of the introduction of the Gunwerks 7 LRM...www.gunwerks.com
30-378 was invented in 1959, Roy and the Department of the Army under top secret contract were studying the effects of shrapnel and super high velocity projectiles...I was an early adopter of the 7mm STW back in the early 90s when it was still a wildcat off the Rem 8mm. We used to make cases from 300 Weatherby cases by fire forming and necking down. Those cases didn't last long because of the classic belt area over worked issue. But back in the 90s there was no shortage of components. If you have all the stuff for the 7mm STW and barrel life left have a good brake put on it like a Terminator 2 and recoil is not an issue. There are still several manufactures of STW brass. If you stay with it buy enough to shoot out the barrel and your set for a few years.
The STW, RUM, 30-378, etc. were all born in the days where lighter fast stepping bullets ruled the school. This was because most hunters were using MPBR to correct for longer range shots and it worked pretty good. Well, in the last 12ish years there has been a seed change in the hunting field with the advent of very good affordable range-finders with ballistics built in, wind meters, and all kinds of ballistic apps MPBR is passe. So super-fast stepping bullets are no longer required to reach out and touch a critter. Now super accuracy and high BC heavy for caliber bullets that hold on to velocity way out there and handle wind better are ruling the school. This has opened up that 500yard-1000yard region for hunters willing to put in the wok to develop the skill and gear to shoot consistently accurate in that region. Of course, there are this that want to shoot farther and those that say you shouldn't even be shooting over 500.
That being said there are cartridges that solve many issues we have worked around for years and provide off-the-shelf incredible accuracy performance. For example, this podcast discusses such advantages and disadvantages of certain 7mm cartridges, and of course there is a load of other info out there as well. This is good starting point for a listen.
EP 127: Meet The New 7 PRC
Aaron, Landon & Neal Introduce the new 7 PRC cartridge from Hornady. They discuss specs and ballistic performance and compare it to the variety of popul ar 7mm cartridges including the 7 SAUM, 7 Rem Mag, 7 LRM and 28 Nosler. Aaron recounts the history of the introduction of the Gunwerks 7 LRM...
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True about the invention, I was using it as an example of how it was used in AZ for Coues deer before the advent of range finders. I could have also mentioned the Lazzeroni line of cartridges as an example. It was just an example of high velocity cartridges that were used like the STW was used. We shot 140gr bullets in our STWs. I think most of the people shooting the 30s were using 180grainers.
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Heck these days the STW might win out by the fact that you can make cases from 300 Weatherby if needed.
I just bought a custom 7stw, for brass check out:
They are expensive, but worth it. They have standard grade brass and a higher grade that will take higher chamber pressures. All you have to do is send them one fired case from your rifle. They're perfect as they are cut one at a time on CNC.
They can make any caliber brass you can think of, buy once and cry once, after that it's all good.
They are expensive, but worth it. They have standard grade brass and a higher grade that will take higher chamber pressures. All you have to do is send them one fired case from your rifle. They're perfect as they are cut one at a time on CNC.
They can make any caliber brass you can think of, buy once and cry once, after that it's all good.
Thanks for this link!
See another thread here on LRH that company is bankrupt!
That's bad news as I had bought some 264 win mag for my ELR gun not that long ago.
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Nosler Brass 8mm Remington Magnum Unprimed Box of 25 - Graf & Sons
Manufactured with the traditional Nosler philosophy of uncompromising attention to detail, NoserCustom cartridge brass is created to exact dimensional standards and tolerances using quality materials for maximum accuracy, consistency potential and long case life. Nosler brass is full prepped and...
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Hornady Brass 416 Remington Mag Unprimed Box of 50 - Graf & Sons
With Hornady brass you’ll get more reloads, greater consistency, predictable performance and accuracy that commodity brass simply can’t deliver. We measure for consistent wall concentricity and we run our cases through pressure calibration tests to ensure uniform case expansion. And each and...
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they also have hornady 416 rem if you want to turn necks a bit and neck twice
Gunbroker usually has brass available, I've gotten quite a bit off there and have a friend that has some readily available pm if interested
I have a passion for that 7mm stw so my opinion is stick with it. I love the grouping and distance you get out of those. I've done a lot of loads for a 195 EOL with them, and they go far
I have a passion for that 7mm stw so my opinion is stick with it. I love the grouping and distance you get out of those. I've done a lot of loads for a 195 EOL with them, and they go far
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I'd be interested to know what the outcome of this is as I have considered a Bergara a few times but haven't pulled the trigger on one yet (no pun intended).
