Hello from Spain! Questions about a Bergara B-14 HMR 6.5 creedmoor

[Padmi]

The ELD-M is a match bullet. The ELD-X is the hunting bullet.

thanks a lot for your clarification! I will buy eld-m that it easy to find in Spain

 

[Padmi]

First - welcome and congratulations.

This world needs more responsible shooters.



If you have 1000m close - you are doing better than a lot of people in the USA.



Not sure what powders from Hodgdon are available to you, but give this link a look.

Thanks so much for your words. About the powder I have other good options here in Spain. And it is forbidden to purchase powder from other countries

 

[Padmi]

Welcome Pablo! Spain is a beautiful country with wonderful people. It is nice to hear from you. I hope you do make it back to the USA. We love enthusiastic shooters here!

You are on the right track with SIERRA and BERGER bullets. They are both capable of a high degree of accuracy and are well made products. But in the 6.5mm range, the Hornady ELD-M bullets are also very good, if you can find them. As you said, bullets in the 140 grain range are going to be 'best' for long range shooting.

In the SIERRA bullets, I would start with the 6.5mm, 142 grain MATCHKING HPBT (hollow-point boat-tail), which is Sierra product (SKU)#1742. It has a G1 Ballistic Coefficient (BC) of 0.595. They says it needs a 1 in 8" twist, which you have, so that works fine.

In the BERGER bullets, I would go with the 6.5mm, 140 grain, LONG RANGE BT (boat-tail) TARGET bullet (SKU: 679459264099). This bullet has a G1 BC of 0.593 (and a G7 BC of 0.304.) Berger recommends a 1 in 9" twist or faster, so again, that works in your rifle fine. If you can't get that bullet, then the Berger 6.5mm, 140 grain, HYBRID TARGET bullet (SKU: 679459264143) should work just as well.

The "problem" is for the Reload Swiss (RS) powders, I don't see the Sierra or Berger bullets listed in their reloading data. They do show loads for the 6.5mm Hornady 140 grain ELD-M (which is their MATCH bullet), which is also an excellent choice if you can find them in Spain. The reloading data for the RS50, RS52, RS60, RS62, and RS70 powder and the 140 gr Hornady ELD-M bullets is shown below:
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It sounds like you already reload for pistol calibers (9mm and .45) Do you have a chronograph? That will help you stay safe as you develop loads in your rifle. If you see your velocity shoot past the high end shown above for the particular powder you are using, you shouldn't go any further. If you notice stiff bolt opening, that's another warning sign to back off. No need to 'hot-rod' the gun! Stay within the velocity parameters shown in the chart, with the powder indicated, and you should be fine. You are more interested in a CONSISTENT load that is ACCURATE in your gun.

Thanks a lot for your advices. And you are right. At the end since my barrel has 1 8 twist, Im going to buy the ELD hornady 140gr, that are cheap bullets here in Spain.

Answering your question, yes, I have a chronograph so I can check the velocity.

And about your country, currently Im sending my resume to A lot of companies there. Bergara offered me a job as RD engineer but in their spanish factory and my dream is living in U.S.

 

[Frog4aday]

<SNIPPED STUFF> ...since my barrel has 1 in 8 twist, I'm going to buy the Hornady ELD-M 140gr, that are cheap bullets here in Spain. Answering your question, yes, I have a chronograph so I can check the velocity. <SNIPPED STUFF> Currently I'm sending my resume to a lot of companies there (USA). Bergara offered me a job as RD engineer but in their Spanish factory and my dream is living in U.S.

Pablo, I wish you the best of luck with your USA job search. If not with Bergara, there are LOTS of other gun companies here that would be happy to employee a Spanish speaking engineer!

As for the Hornady ELD-M bullets, they really are excellent. You used the word "cheap" which tends to mean poor quality, but I'm sure you were just pointing out that they were affordable in your country. They definitely are high quality bullets and so many have gotten excellent accuracy with them.

It is good to hear you already have a chronograph. You are in great shape to get started with long range rifle shooting and precision handloading! Good luck. Be safe. Have fun.

 

[Padmi]

Pablo, I wish you the best of luck with your USA job search. If not with Bergara, there are LOTS of other gun companies here that would be happy to employee a Spanish speaking engineer!

As for the Hornady ELD-M bullets, they really are excellent. You used the word "cheap" which tends to mean poor quality, but I'm sure you were just pointing out that they were affordable in your country. They definitely are high quality bullets and so many have gotten excellent accuracy with them.

It is good to hear you already have a chronograph. You are in great shape to get started with long range rifle shooting and precision handloading! Good luck. Be safe. Have fun.

Thanks for your words. First, sorry for my poor English, I started studying it three years ago, but I still make a lot of mistakes. When I said "cheap" trying to mean affordable, as you told. Thanks for the correction, I improved my English a little bit more haha.

Yeah, my dream is working there so Im motivated to find in some states like Texas, South Dakota, Wyoming, Louisiana, Colorado,,,

I'm going to follow your advice that is the same that the rest of people that told in this post ELD bullets.

Thanks so much again. Let me prepare the rifle because now Im bussy in my job, and then I will show you my results

 

[Deleted member 107796]

Pablo,
Barcelona is on my bucket list! I'd like to visit the Dali and Picasso museums.

 

[Padmi]

Pablo,
Barcelona is on my bucket list! I'd like to visit the Dali and Picasso museums.

Barcelona is a nice city. There are people from a lot of countries, it is not a traditional spanish city like Toledo, Cuenca, Granada or Santiago. But most of people say that it is the most beautifull city in Spain. The weather is warn.

I would like to recommend you Granada, Toledo and Santiago if you want to visit medieval cities.

But if you come to Spain you can mail me and I can help.

Prepare your pocket (i dont know if in english you say "pocket" when you try to mean prepare money", barcelona is very very expensive. The most expensive city in Spain. For example Toledo is cheap and food is really good

 

[the hunter]

If guns is you passion, DO NOT MOVE TO CALIFORNIA. It's a different planet.

 

[Padmi]

If guns is you passion, DO NOT MOVE TO CALIFORNIA. It's a different planet.

I know. I told other states but never California!

I was in Yosemite, Dead Valley, San Francisco and LA and I enjoyed my visit. But I notice that the legislation about firearms is different

 

[Padmi]

Hi guys, I have an easy question.

I need to buy the shell holder to my lee autoprime tool. But I don't know witch number I have to buy to the 6.5 creedmoor. Do you know if is it shell holder number 2? Thanks so much in advance

 

[Padmi]

I found the right shell holder in LEE web site. Number 2

 

[AFraser]

Padmi
I have a lot of experience with RS60 in the 6.5 Creedmoor, (which is the same powder as RL17 that many guys use in the USA). It's a fast powder, but with good pressures and I have used it on 123gr up to 140gr bullets, and achieved excellent groups (below 1/2 inch).
Getting to around 2800 fps with a 140 gr bullet, or 3000 fps with a 120/123gr bullet should not be a problem.

 

[Echo Charlie]

I found the right shell holder in LEE web site. Number 2

Hola Padmi,

Same shell holder of 243W, 270W, 308W, 30-06SPG...

 

[Padmi]

Padmi
I have a lot of experience with RS60 in the 6.5 Creedmoor, (which is the same powder as RL17 that many guys use in the USA). It's a fast powder, but with good pressures and I have used it on 123gr up to 140gr bullets, and achieved excellent groups (below 1/2 inch).
Getting to around 2800 fps with a 140 gr bullet, or 3000 fps with a 120/123gr bullet should not be a problem.

Thanks so much for your advice! I purchased also RS60 instead RS50. And I might use 140gr Hornady ELD M to my first loads.


Thanks again