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[JimFromTN]

Scania launches its regional long-haul electric truck

Swedish vehicle maker Scania launches a regional long-haul electric truck that will be available as both a rigid truck and a tractor-trailer.

electrek.co

Big Rigs Going Electric As Navistar, Cummins, Daimler Rev Up Next-Generation Trucks

The electric vehicle revolution is far bigger—literally—than Teslas and Ford’s electric pickup.

www.forbes.com

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/future-electric-semi-trucks

Electric Semi Truck Companies To Look Out For

Electric semi truck companies could reduce emissions and improve efficiency with battery-powered or hydrogen cell vehicles.

ratings.freightwaves.com

Kenworth says electric truck orders have tripled the past three months, quoting customers in 44 states

Kenworth Truck Co. says that electric truck orders have tripled in the last 90 days as fleets look to take advantage of ZEV incentives.

electrek.co

We’re creating watts next. And it’s ready right now.

A beacon of innovation for commercial transportation.

trucks.thelionelectric.com

eCascadia | Freightliner Trucks

Experience the future of sustainable transportation with the Freightliner eCascadia – the electric semi truck revolutionizing the industry.

freightliner.com

Semi | Tesla

Tesla Semi is a fully electric semi truck with active safety features, massive range and a spacious interior designed for maximum visibility.

www.tesla.com

Our electric truck range

We’re here to make your shift to electric as smooth as possible: from helping you choose the right electric truck to planning range and securing deliveries.

www.volvotrucks.com

Buying commercial EVs? Request A Quote | Lightning eMotors

Electrifying your fleet? Request a quote and engage with us on the exciting journey to zero emissions!

lightningemotors.com

Bollinger Motors all-electric commercial trucks

Bollinger Motors is the all-American electric truck manufacturer.

bollingermotors.com

Nikola Corporation - Sustainability Delivered Today

Nikola Class 8 Zero Emissions Semi Trucks - Driving the Future of Zero-Emissions

nikolamotor.com

https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/e-transit/

 

[DUCKMAN11]

Scania launches its regional long-haul electric truck

Swedish vehicle maker Scania launches a regional long-haul electric truck that will be available as both a rigid truck and a tractor-trailer.

electrek.co

Big Rigs Going Electric As Navistar, Cummins, Daimler Rev Up Next-Generation Trucks

The electric vehicle revolution is far bigger—literally—than Teslas and Ford’s electric pickup.

www.forbes.com

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/future-electric-semi-trucks

Electric Semi Truck Companies To Look Out For

Electric semi truck companies could reduce emissions and improve efficiency with battery-powered or hydrogen cell vehicles.

ratings.freightwaves.com

Kenworth says electric truck orders have tripled the past three months, quoting customers in 44 states

Kenworth Truck Co. says that electric truck orders have tripled in the last 90 days as fleets look to take advantage of ZEV incentives.

electrek.co

We’re creating watts next. And it’s ready right now.

A beacon of innovation for commercial transportation.

trucks.thelionelectric.com

eCascadia | Freightliner Trucks

Experience the future of sustainable transportation with the Freightliner eCascadia – the electric semi truck revolutionizing the industry.

freightliner.com

Semi | Tesla

Tesla Semi is a fully electric semi truck with active safety features, massive range and a spacious interior designed for maximum visibility.

www.tesla.com

Our electric truck range

We’re here to make your shift to electric as smooth as possible: from helping you choose the right electric truck to planning range and securing deliveries.

www.volvotrucks.com

Buying commercial EVs? Request A Quote | Lightning eMotors

Electrifying your fleet? Request a quote and engage with us on the exciting journey to zero emissions!

lightningemotors.com

Bollinger Motors all-electric commercial trucks

Bollinger Motors is the all-American electric truck manufacturer.

bollingermotors.com

Nikola Corporation - Sustainability Delivered Today

Nikola Class 8 Zero Emissions Semi Trucks - Driving the Future of Zero-Emissions

nikolamotor.com

https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/e-transit/

So as someone who works at a truck manufacturer. Orders and "plans to" and whatever other buzz words don't mean squat! We produced our first EV truck 2 years ago and I didn't see another one completely built until last Friday and I see EVERY truck we build. The 4 EV trucks we've built were basically built in the engineering lab for testing. None of which are for sale. If we have another chip shortage or any more supply chain issues than we already have you ain't gonna see any EV trucks on the road in any number. EV technology industry wide might work for garbage trucks or a city buss but you aint gonna see one in a highway flyer any time soon. It costs almost twice as much to build an EV currently.

 

[JimFromTN]

So as someone who works at a truck manufacturer. Orders and "plans to" and whatever other buzz words don't mean squat! We produced our first EV truck 2 years ago and I didn't see another one completely built until last Friday and I see EVERY truck we build. The 4 EV trucks we've built were basically built in the engineering lab for testing. None of which are for sale. If we have another chip shortage or any more supply chain issues than we already have you ain't gonna see any EV trucks on the road in any number. EV technology industry wide might work for garbage trucks or a city buss but you aint gonna see one in a highway flyer any time soon. It costs almost twice as much to build an EV currently.

I absolutely believe you and don't doubt a word that you say but it has to start somewhere. You don't go from zero to sixty overnight. Point being that they are on the horizon in the not so distant future and there is definite interest. Even freightliner and volvo have jumped in the game. I imagine european countries will be the beta testers. Technology is ever evolving. What is true today won't be tomorrow when it comes to technology otherwise we would all still be using brick phones.

I am surprised that after all the trucker protests that driverless trucks has not been getting more traction. I imagine gas prices put that on the back burner.

 

[Wedgy]

 

[DUCKMAN11]

I absolutely believe you and don't doubt a word that you say but it has to start somewhere. You don't go from zero to sixty overnight. Point being that they are on the horizon in the not so distant future and there is definite interest. Even freightliner and volvo have jumped in the game. I imagine european countries will be the beta testers. Technology is ever evolving. What is true today won't be tomorrow when it comes to technology otherwise we would all still be using brick phones.

I am surprised that after all the trucker protests that driverless trucks has not been getting more traction. I imagine gas prices put that on the back burner.

I agree that it has to start somewhere. But building the vehicle before the charging station isn't the way to get people to convert to EV. A 2 unit charging station cost us 80k just to get electricity and an awning to OUR technology. I can only imagine what the mark up would be for consumers. And then we can go back to the "how is the electricity produced" topic.

In my opinion EV is superior in markets like trash collection or school busses or UPS delivery trucks. It won't take over in long haul trucking any time soon.

Everyone is talking Russian oil.....how about Russian DEF fluid? I've heard that Russia makes 60% of the DEF fluid. No DEF = no running diesel engine manufactured after 2008

 

[JimFromTN]

I agree that it has to start somewhere. But building the vehicle before the charging station isn't the way to get people to convert to EV. A 2 unit charging station cost us 80k just to get electricity and an awning to OUR technology. I can only imagine what the mark up would be for consumers. And then we can go back to the "how is the electricity produced" topic.

In my opinion EV is superior in markets like trash collection or school busses or UPS delivery trucks. It won't take over in long haul trucking any time soon.

Everyone is talking Russian oil.....how about Russian DEF fluid? I've heard that Russia makes 60% of the DEF fluid. No DEF = no running diesel engine manufactured after 2008

Its hard to imagine a long haul electric truck. Tesla is looking pretty impressive. Its advertising a semi with a 500 mile range for $180k base price and only uses 2 kwh per mile. Based on their specs, it would practically pay for itself in the first year. Of course, that what they claim. I have no idea what the reality of that is.

 

[257Tony]

Russia is making bank on this "war", they are probably money ahead by now. Those sanctions are doing exactly what they always do, hurt everyone else...

Russia's Oil Revenue Soars Despite Sanctions, Study Finds

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine triggered global condemnation and tough sanctions aimed at denting Moscow’s war chest. Yet Russia’s revenues from fossil fuels, by far its biggest export, soared to records in the first 100 days of its war on Ukraine, driven by a windfall from oil sales amid surging...

www.yahoo.com

The United States has made a dent in Russia's earnings, banning all Russian fossil fuel imports. Still, the United States is importing refined oil products from countries like the Netherlands and India that most likely contain Russian crude, a loophole for oil from Russia to make its way to the U.S.

 

[shortgrass]

So as someone who works at a truck manufacturer. Orders and "plans to" and whatever other buzz words don't mean squat! We produced our first EV truck 2 years ago and I didn't see another one completely built until last Friday and I see EVERY truck we build. The 4 EV trucks we've built were basically built in the engineering lab for testing. None of which are for sale. If we have another chip shortage or any more supply chain issues than we already have you ain't gonna see any EV trucks on the road in any number. EV technology industry wide might work for garbage trucks or a city buss but you aint gonna see one in a highway flyer any time soon. It costs almost twice as much to build an EV currently.

Haven't seen CNG semi (or bigger than a pick-up) either. CNG hasn't the octane rating needed for those larger vehicles that carry a 'burden'.

 

[DUCKMAN11]

Russia is making bank on this "war", they are probably money ahead by now. Those sanctions are doing exactly what they always do, hurt everyone else...

Russia's Oil Revenue Soars Despite Sanctions, Study Finds

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine triggered global condemnation and tough sanctions aimed at denting Moscow’s war chest. Yet Russia’s revenues from fossil fuels, by far its biggest export, soared to records in the first 100 days of its war on Ukraine, driven by a windfall from oil sales amid surging...

www.yahoo.com

The United States has made a dent in Russia's earnings, banning all Russian fossil fuel imports. Still, the United States is importing refined oil products from countries like the Netherlands and India that most likely contain Russian crude, a loophole for oil from Russia to make its way to the U.S.

That's probably why you don't see reporting on the struggles of the Russian people.......because there isn't any AND it doesn't fit the narrative

 

[DUCKMAN11]

Haven't seen CNG semi (or bigger than a pick-up) either. CNG hasn't the octane rating needed for those larger vehicles that carry a 'burden'.

We make CNG trucks every day. Most of them are for the WM waste management company and another concrete company.

 

[Wedgy]

Haven't seen CNG semi (or bigger than a pick-up) either. CNG hasn't the octane rating needed for those larger vehicles that carry a 'burden'.

c.

In my opinion EV is superior in markets like trash collection or school busses or UPS delivery trucks. It won't take over in long haul trucking any time soon.

Isn't the idea to charge them during the day with solar power to avoid using fossil fuel generated power ? I think EV's are practical for stuff like you said but the would have to run them at night and charge during the day to get the full benefit.

 

[DUCKMAN11]

Isn't the idea to charge them during the day with solar power to avoid using fossil fuel generated power ? I think EV's are practical for stuff like you said but the would have to run them at night and charge during the day to get the full benefit.

I don't think solar is in the equation at all any time soon. Think of them as giant golf carts. You plug them in at the end of your shift so that they are fully charged for the next day. Battery swaps are a possibility but would take 2hrs or more to change out the 4+ clothes dryer size batteries. I would be the first guy in line to buy a 3/4-1 ton EV pickup if and only if it had a 1k mile range minimum. I'm not turning an 8hr drive to the coast into a 2 day event because I need to charge my truck after 400mi pulling a boat trailer.

The infrastructure isn't available! Heck the people to build the infrastructure aren't available. Starving us at the gas pump isn't going to make people buy EV if it's nowhere near comparable to conventional engines. But yet I think that's Brandon's plan.

 

[chav0_12]

I don't think solar is in the equation at all any time soon. Think of them as giant golf carts. You plug them in at the end of your shift so that they are fully charged for the next day. Battery swaps are a possibility but would take 2hrs or more to change out the 4+ clothes dryer size batteries. I would be the first guy in line to buy a 3/4-1 ton EV pickup if and only if it had a 1k mile range minimum. I'm not turning an 8hr drive to the coast into a 2 day event because I need to charge my truck after 400mi pulling a boat trailer.

The infrastructure isn't available! Heck the people to build the infrastructure aren't available. Starving us at the gas pump isn't going to make people buy EV if it's nowhere near comparable to conventional engines. But yet I think that's Brandon's plan.

This is the biggest issue I see with EVs. I can't do any of the stuff I like doing with a pickup without it adding 2-4 days to a trip in an EV. I drove across Montana and back a couple of years ago to antelope hunt. The only way I'd be able to do that with an EV pickup is if I had a generator running in the back the whole time. Kinda defeats the purpose.

 

[2buffalo]

The infrastructure isn't available! Heck the people to build the infrastructure aren't available.

Duckman you hit the nail on the head.

A guy I work with ordered a Ford lightning as soon as he could and they still can't tell him when he will see one.

I also have a question since you seem to be up on this stuff. I have seen quite a few EV charging stations popping up at convenience stores and rest areas. I have never stopped and checked one out. Interestingly I have yet to see anyone charging a car on one. Do they charge you for this? If so do you know how much it costs?

Your comment earlier on the $80k charging stations I am sure are being paid for with government subsidies and they are printing money to pay for them. No facts to back this up but I bet it's a good guess.