Bear protection handguns?

[dogz]

Why do these threads on bear protection always turn into garbage......

Intersting question for sure. IMO, a lot of it has to do with it being on the internet. It's easy to be well read and therefore sound somewhat like you know what you're doing. People have a strong tendency to over estimate their ability to protect themselves via a pistola in a fight. Ego's a pretty darn big challenge for many in the world and when it comes to guns and hunting we're no slouch.

Personally I know quite a few fellas in my area that feel that they can protect themselves and yet they rarely if ever practice getting into action and making hits under duress.

Real world, I'd be that on threads like this a small fraction of the people have ever been in the close proximity of a bear let alone a G bear let alone one hell bent on taking someone apart!

One things for sure, it's never not entertaining...

 

[xsn10s]

If a person can't clear a holster in time for an attack I doubt they'll have better luck getting bear spray into action. I don't have an issue with bear spray. But seriously I've trained with a handgun far more than bear spray. So my odds of getting a handgun into action would be far better than getting bear spray into action.

 

[xsn10s]

if a person can get bear spray into action and it scares the bear away that's great. But how much more target practice or drawing bear spray does a person need to do to become proficient?

 

[dogz]

There's a reason I love my G20 and the Kenai (Gunfighter) holster.

Bear spray if I carry it is on my left side of my belt and I shoot from the holster. Oviously not idea for all but not much is right...a G bear traveling at you @ 35 mps and or 45 fps is going to challenge us all eh...

(I'm not a youtube guy but there is a interesting video I've seen where 3 different people are using a G20 as well maybe a 44 or 454 and it's interesting to watch them work the two and how much quicker they can reaquire the target when shooting the G20. I found the same thing some 20's years ago when I did a bunch of speed testing with various CF rifles and rounds. My M70/375Wby is accurate but tough to get back on target quickly verse my 06 or .270)

 

[xsn10s]

The problem I have with Glocks is grip angle. It's far more than most pistols/ revolvers. If I shoot nothing but Glocks, which I did for awhile, then that's fine. Otherwise the occasional high flyer happens due to the grip angle. Trigger finger placement is key to on Glocks. Otherwise it's possible to get two groups side by side.

 

[dogz]

Understand that I have 3 Glocks my daily carry 43X, the G20 for the hills and my most recent is a model 44 (22 LR) and I'm loving this one. Fun as heck to shoot and good practice on gophers and chucks. I am fairly intuned with Glocks most days.

 

[WYO300RUM]

If I were going to bear country, I would probably have a dog to run point. We had one when I lived in Alaska for a year. He went with us whenever we went for a hike along the shores of the Arctic Ocean. I heard later he stood his ground between a couple of guys and a Polar, who was looking for a meal.

Finally ! A dog ! I hunt elk and deer with my male Chesapeake. He's my ears and somewhat eyes. He never runs towards deer or anything. I key of his direction of site. When he stops and locks on to something I'm on alert. And ditto when glassing. I watch where he looks. He hears and sees better than my old ....I know he would see or hear a bear before me. I love him like a son..

 

[WYO300RUM]

Understand that I have 3 Glocks my daily carry 43X, the G20 for the hills and my most recent is a model 44 (22 LR) and I'm loving this one. Fun as heck to shoot and good practice on gophers and chucks. I am fairly intuned with Glocks most days.

I have 4. Neener neener. Lol. 20, 21,48 and 44. Lol.
But I'm liking my new Springfield XDM 10MM.

 

[dogz]

Wyo300rum---my constant companion for most all hunt trips is my Jack Russell. Last fall I called in a large boar black bear to 42 yards and Rocky just about went crazy when I wouldn't let him after the bruin

 

[WYO300RUM]

Wyo300rum---my constant companion for most all hunt trips is my Jack Russell. Last fall I called in a large boar black bear to 42 yards and Rocky just about went crazy when I wouldn't let him after the bruin

My Chessie hunts ducks/geese/chuker/pheasant/deer/elk and whatever with me. I would feel guilty if I didn't leave the house without him. Sees a rifle going in a case. A backpack getting stuffed , etc. He comes unglued . Dogs are man's best friends. I can't say that for women. Been divorced 30 yrs. This July . She's my best friend but I'll take the dogs loyalty....

 

[WYO300RUM]

And she don't hunt... Lol

 

[HNDLDR]

The problem I have with Glocks is grip angle. It's far more than most pistols/ revolvers. If I shoot nothing but Glocks, which I did for awhile, then that's fine. Otherwise the occasional high flyer happens due to the grip angle. Trigger finger placement is key to on Glocks. Otherwise it's possible to get two groups side by side.

That's where my XDM comes in. Same angle as a 1911.

 

[xsn10s]

I found the new S&W pointed well for me too. Most of the other revolvers and semi auto pistols have similar grip angles. It's just the Glocks that are different. I think it was some of the Corbon loads in 40 S&W that are close to 10mm.

 

[Trooper1]

Intersting question for sure. IMO, a lot of it has to do with it being on the internet. It's easy to be well read and therefore sound somewhat like you know what you're doing. People have a strong tendency to over estimate their ability to protect themselves via a pistola in a fight. Ego's a pretty darn big challenge for many in the world and when it comes to guns and hunting we're no slouch.

Personally I know quite a few fellas in my area that feel that they can protect themselves and yet they rarely if ever practice getting into action and making hits under duress.

Real world, I'd be that on threads like this a small fraction of the people have ever been in the close proximity of a bear let alone a G bear let alone one hell bent on taking someone apart!

One things for sure, it's never not entertaining...

Spot on again dogs… practice, practice, practice.