Badlands Precision Bullets thread - From BC to terminal ballistics

[Northkill]

Well, guiding season is done for me, so it's back to getting this 300 PRC dialed in before my trip next month.
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Here is some recent load data for the 300 PRC with the 195 grain BD2. I haven't hit any pressure signs and I'm getting pretty close to the speeds I'd like to see (2960-3000). Hopefully I have it shooting sub MOA at 100 by this next iteration of development so I can get a load ready to take out to the big range and see how it performs. If I don't like what I see I will just take my 338 Norma with me on the trip.

Rifle: Bergara 1:9 twist 24" barrel - Dead Air Nomad 30 suppressor

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Case: Lapua - Fired
Primer: Fed215
Powder: Retumbo
Bullet: 195 grain BD2

Charge/ Speed - 3.50" COAL
77.6 / 2845
77.9 / 2861
78.2 / 2870
78.5 / 2882
78.8 / 2884
79.1 / 2913
79.4 / 2899
79.7 / 2915
80.0 / 2909
80.3 / 2926
80.6 / 2937
80.9 / 2939
81.2 / 2957

Looking good. I know this is off topic but I'm pretty curious how you feel about that Dead Air? Got a couple of those in the pipeline for myself. Hoping I'll like them.

 

[SheepShapeAK]

Looking good. I know this is off topic but I'm pretty curious how you feel about that Dead Air? Got a couple of those in the pipeline for myself. Hoping I'll like them.

It's sweet. That PRC barely kicks at all. It's less recoil than a .308 with the suppressor on it.

 

[Northkill]

Wow man. That's what I want to hear. I'm excited.

 

[akmtnhnt]

I've not found Barnes data to work well at all. These bullets are a low engraving bullet similar to the Hammer Absolutes. I use similar start pressures in Quickload with the Hammers and Badlands which is significantly lower than Barnes.

What are you using for start pressure?

 

[bigngreen]

That aluminum tip pic is interesting, there's quite a bit of info on how that bullet started expansion there.

 

[Pdvdh]

That aluminum tip pic is interesting, there's quite a bit of info on how that bullet started expansion there.

I've found a couple tips near the entry side of game animals. All game shot with the Badlands AL tipped bullets have expanded and performed well so far. But still none taken past 625 yds.

 

[JTH]

Well, guiding season is done for me, so it's back to getting this 300 PRC dialed in before my trip next month.
View attachment 388717

Here is some recent load data for the 300 PRC with the 195 grain BD2. I haven't hit any pressure signs and I'm getting pretty close to the speeds I'd like to see (2960-3000). Hopefully I have it shooting sub MOA at 100 by this next iteration of development so I can get a load ready to take out to the big range and see how it performs. If I don't like what I see I will just take my 338 Norma with me on the trip.

Rifle: Bergara 1:9 twist 24" barrel - Dead Air Nomad 30 suppressor

View attachment 388718

Case: Lapua - Fired
Primer: Fed215
Powder: Retumbo
Bullet: 195 grain BD2

Charge/ Speed - 3.50" COAL
77.6 / 2845
77.9 / 2861
78.2 / 2870
78.5 / 2882
78.8 / 2884
79.1 / 2913
79.4 / 2899
79.7 / 2915
80.0 / 2909
80.3 / 2926
80.6 / 2937
80.9 / 2939
81.2 / 2957

With a COAL of 3.50" how much are you jumping them? I'm running the 195's in a 300 PRC seated at 3.602 COAL which is jumping them 0.050 in my barrel.

 

[nralifer]

Well, guiding season is done for me, so it's back to getting this 300 PRC dialed in before my trip next month.
View attachment 388717

Here is some recent load data for the 300 PRC with the 195 grain BD2. I haven't hit any pressure signs and I'm getting pretty close to the speeds I'd like to see (2960-3000). Hopefully I have it shooting sub MOA at 100 by this next iteration of development so I can get a load ready to take out to the big range and see how it performs. If I don't like what I see I will just take my 338 Norma with me on the trip.

Rifle: Bergara 1:9 twist 24" barrel - Dead Air Nomad 30 suppressor

View attachment 388718

Case: Lapua - Fired
Primer: Fed215
Powder: Retumbo
Bullet: 195 grain BD2

Charge/ Speed - 3.50" COAL
77.6 / 2845
77.9 / 2861
78.2 / 2870
78.5 / 2882
78.8 / 2884
79.1 / 2913
79.4 / 2899
79.7 / 2915
80.0 / 2909
80.3 / 2926
80.6 / 2937
80.9 / 2939
81.2 / 2957

Do a small jump ladder. Take 2shots at each increment starting 0.010" jump out to 0.040". Use the jump that gives you the smallest 2 shot group. Looks like you have a node between 80.3 and 80.9 gr.

 

[nralifer]

I've found a couple tips near the entry side of game animals. All game shot with the Badlands AL tipped bullets have expanded and performed well so far. But still none taken past 625 yds.

The tips come out at about 1" of penetration in our 10% gel tests, so the fact that you find them clese to the entrance site is consistent with early expulsion. In gel the tips usually travel 4-5" of center usually to the right of the bullet path.

 

[bigngreen]

I've found a couple tips near the entry side of game animals. All game shot with the Badlands AL tipped bullets have expanded and performed well so far. But still none taken past 625 yds.

I've found hundreds of tips from many bullet makes, they end up pretty consistently in the same place. It's just interesting to see the damage as it's basically a tell on it's path of exiting the bullet and the stresses of that.

 

[Mike D Texas]

What are you using for start pressure?

2176psi like the Hammer Absolutes.

 

[SheepShapeAK]

With a COAL of 3.50" how much are you jumping them? I'm running the 195's in a 300 PRC seated at 3.602 COAL which is jumping them 0.050 in my barrel.

Right now I'm jumping almost .200. I need to revisit it though since I've found a couple nodes that are giving me single digit ES and SD's.

I tried a seating depth test a while back and started .020 off the lands.

 

[SheepShapeAK]

I've found a couple tips near the entry side of game animals. All game shot with the Badlands AL tipped bullets have expanded and performed well so far. But still none taken past 625 yds.

The 275 grain SBD2 was a through and through on the moose I killed last year at 950 yards, with my 338 Norma.

 

[SheepShapeAK]

Some more 300 PRC data from today.

Bergara 24" Barrel 1:9 twist
Case: Lapua - 3rd firing
Primer: Fed 215
Powder: Retumbo
Bullet: 195 grain BD2

Still no pressure signs with Retumbo.

Charge/ Speed
81.5 / 2953
81.8 / 2950
82.1 / 2976
82.4 / 2994
82.7 / 3011

Powder: MAGPRO (got pressure in earlier tests at 81.8gn)
Charge : Speed
81.2 / 2970
81.2 / 2997
81.2 / 2974
81.2 / 2970
81.2 / 2964