I have two argos, two ares, and a cronus. The Argos are good starter scopes for around a $330 street price. They'll get you shooting that's for sure. The Ares and Cronus are truly a step above though. The ares blows the Vortex HST/PST out of the water with image quality, tracking, and features. Its also about 400 cheaper than the Gen II PSTs. The Cronus is $600 cheaper then the Razors and is just as good if not better in image quality and features. If you want a argos, glass is good, has a lot of additional features, and it tracks true to its click values/ its repeatable. It wont compete with higher end vortexes, NF, etc. But you do get a lot for a $300-$400 optic.