I'm not sure that I understand where the confusion about the short-vs-long comes from. Remington didn't call the 6.5 Rem Mag or 350 Rem mag the Rem mag short and nobody gets them confused with the 7mm Rem Mag.
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I'm not sure that I understand where the confusion about the short-vs-long comes from. Remington didn't call the 6.5 Rem Mag or 350 Rem mag the Rem mag short and nobody gets them confused with the 7mm Rem Mag.
The Newton case is different in every dimension and is actually closer to the 8x68s case. The 375 Ruger case is loosely based on the 8x68s case but has a larger diameter rim and case head.
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To play devils advocate, the only people that shoot 6.5 rem mag in the past 3 decades are into the hobby enough to not get confused by that. Further, Remingtons marketing of cartridges isn't known to be impressive, or really even adequate.
If there were a 300 PRC and something like 30 PRC (a short version) I'd agree it was a problem. If there's only one 6.5 PRC and one 300 PRC I don't see how what confusion there could be.
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8x68 copied the Newton. The common mistake with the Newton is to measure the case, where measuring the original Chamber Size is what's relevant. Newton & Schuler both used fire form brass technology. .375 Ruger & 300 PRC are identical with exception of the shoulder height and Caliber differences. Someone should market the Hornady Doll.
Side Note: my original reference to the 7mm Von Hoff was in error,, as the Express was formed using the .404 Jeffery and I was referring the Von Hoff based on the 8x68 Case.
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I get what you're saying It's just that I've seen people even on this forum getting confused and if that's the case there's many out there not as privy to the hobby that I feel will be a bit confused.
I don't know inks it's that big of a deal, I just think they could have done better. They however are known to be quite good at marketing, so I'm sure they considered it and decided this route was best.
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I think at this point the Gallery needs to know which PRC you are referring to? the .284 PRC or the 7mm PRC? It's now been established the 7mm PRC would be based on the 6.5 PRC or the .338 RCM Case. The .284 PRC would be based on the .300 PRC Case.
(I know I appreciate the 7mm-300 RCM Improved.)
You did get me! No one want another PRC; it's all about the 28 Nosler anyway.
That didn't sound right, so I just double checked. The Newton case doesn't share any similar dimensions with the PRC/Ruger case. The Newton case and chamber are smaller in every dimension.
The .300 PRC is based off the .375 Ruger, and Hornady designed that case from the ground up. It's not a modified .404 Jeffery case or Rem Ultra Mag like the Nosler cases. It is it's on thing, not a copy or based on anything else.
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PTG and Manson are making readers for the 7mm PRC
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You must not have ever heard of a 7-375 Ruger wildcat that was popular a while back. Hell, even Quality Cartridge makes brass for it.
The 7mm/375 Ruger (which I've had) isn't the same as a 7/300 PRC. I can assure you that designers at Hornady were playing with a 7mm on the 375 Ruger case long before Quality Cartridge made brass for it.
MudRunner2005
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How can you assure me that? I know Hornady helped design the .375 Ruger, but how can you be sure they tried a 7mm version?
