7 PRC

[338weatherby]

I agree with this completely but I think you're missing his point.

For the non hand loader it's difficult to improve on the prc/ creed line of ammo when it comes to availability, long range accuracy and quality long range bullets.

FWIW- I shoot a 6 dasher, 7 saum and 30 nosler so not on the band wagon myself...

This is why I decided on the 7PRC for my XP-100 build that will be starting soon. I wanted an easy button for this set up. Being able to shoot factory ammo and spend more time shooting. I spend plenty of time loading up and developing my 6.5 Grendel, 7 Saum, 7x57AI, 30N, 338-06 and 338 LM improved. Will it do anything the 7 Saum can't? Other then free up some time, nope.

 

[Bud LaRoche]

The one we built shot factory eldx 175 2967
Handloads 180 target hybrid 3049 reloader 26

Those are great speeds. What length barrel?

 

[Schw15]

I was on the mindset these new cases are pointless but I'm a reloader. Until I decided to get a 7 prc and bought factory ammo (still waiting on barrel) I really understood what hornady was trying to do. With the prc line they give a modern case design but does the 300 prc do anything 300 win mag can't do no I think there basically the same thing performance wise. But where the prc line stands out is the new twist rates for modern bullets and factory ammo for the better bullets. Allows you to have the bullets set out proper without going custom. Unfortunately so many 300 win mags out there and can't produce the better factory ammo because twist rates and throat lengths. I now find the new designs awesome and I think if the things keep going in the long range shooting stuff more and more prc will be sold and the 300 win mag and 7 mags will suffer in the future. I'm a guy who shoots 30 nosler 7-300 win mag and I'm excited for the 7 prc just to have good factory ammo option.

 

[Barbourcreek]

Those are great speeds. What length barrel?

26 8 twist benchmark
still have not pushed it but its a good start

 

[Idaho Lefty]

...nothing personal but this cartridge seems to cause more anxiety than much additional performance...lol

IT doesn't need to, cause "Anxiety" as it's,.. just, a BETTER designed,.. 7 MM Rem Mag / 7 WSM
It's, Cartridge design,.. "Perfection" and has, awesome, Factory Ammo !
Sadly, Winchester and Remington ARE,.. falling by, the Wayside,.. BUT, Hornady HAS, picked up,.. the SLACK !

 

[Varmint Hunter]

IT doesn't need to, cause "Anxiety" as it's,.. just, a BETTER designed,.. 7 MM Rem Mag / 7 WSM
Cartridge design,.. "Perfection" !

What about the 7PRC makes it a better design than the 7WSM? The 7WSM has similar case capacity and is a slightly shorter and fatter cartridge which has been proven to enhance consistent combustion. The shorter 7WSM case would easily accommodate long VLD style bullets in an action of the same length as that used for the 7PRC.

I'm not anti-7PRC and have a new barrel for it on order. I'm just curious to know what the new 7PRC case has over the 7WSM.

 

[73driver]

I agree with this completely but I think you're missing his point.

For the non hand loader it's difficult to improve on the prc/ creed line of ammo when it comes to availability, long range accuracy and quality long range bullets.

FWIW- I shoot a 6 dasher, 7 saum and 30 nosler so not on the band wagon myself...

BINGO Right on target and efficiently said, just like the 6.5C/7PRC.

 

[MostlyUselessLurker]

Factory ammo with 175's under $100/box. It will do it better than any other 7mm because no other 7mm does factory ammo with 175's for less than $100/box

 

[entoptics]

Not to bash any cartridge, but does 7 PRC do anything a 280 AI doesn't do? I see a few load configurations that exceed the AI by 20-50 FPS with 175 bullets...

Comparing Nosler data to Hodgdon data, both with the 175 ABLR, the 7mm PRC outruns the 280 AI by a heck of a lot more than 20-50 fps.

Cartridge	Powder	Charge	Velocity	FPS/Gr	FPS Difference
7 PRC	H1000	67.2	2968	44.2
280 AI	H1000	61	2843	46.6	125
7 PRC	IMR7828	65.6	3029	46.2
280 AI	IMR7828	58	2772	47.8	257
7 PRC	H4831	64.2	3018	47.0
280 AI	H4831	55.5	2729	49.2	289
Max Published Load
7 PRC	LRT	79	3106	39.3
280 AI	RL26	59.5	2903	48.8	203

Also, taking the average data from Hodgdon for a 175 gr bullet for each cartridge, the 7 PRC outruns the 280 AI by 279 fps, and 271 fps for a 162 gr bullet.

In Hornady Precision Hunter factory ammo, the 162 ELDX has an advertised velocity of 2850 fps in a 280 AI, while the 175 ELDX is given as 3000 fps. 150 fps faster with a 13 gr heavier bullet.

The 280 AI is to the 7 PRC what the 30-06 is to the 300 Win Mag. They are not in the same class.

 

[Idaho Lefty]

What about the 7PRC makes it a better design than the 7WSM? The 7WSM has similar case capacity and is a slightly shorter and fatter cartridge which has been proven to enhance consistent combustion. The shorter 7WSM case would easily accommodate long VLD style bullets in an action of the same length as that used for the 7PRC.

I'm not anti-7PRC and have a new barrel for it on order. I'm just curious to know what the new 7PRC case has over the 7WSM.

Longer case Neck ( Move Bullets forward more if, Desired ) and, a Longer Action and "Throat" to, Fit,.. the New, Longer, Boolitz
ALL "done" in a Factory standardized Round that,.. you CAN,.. Get !
Lots of complaints about, 7 WSM, and "others" Brass,.. availabilty

 

[73driver]

What about the 7PRC makes it a better design than the 7WSM? The 7WSM has similar case capacity and is a slightly shorter and fatter cartridge which has been proven to enhance consistent combustion. The shorter 7WSM case would easily accommodate long VLD style bullets in an action of the same length as that used for the 7PRC.

I'm not anti-7PRC and have a new barrel for it on order. I'm just curious to know what the new 7PRC case has over the 7WSM.

The 7PRC has a tighter chamber specs, specs in a faster twist, longer case neck, longer free bore lead for the bullet, tighter specked free bore .2846 vs .287. Most of the better design of the 7PRC is in its chamber tolerances which are tighter and in the case of the free bore lead longer. The cartridge case itself has a longer neck. All add up to near perfect alignment for the bullet to engage the rifling with minimal wobbling, also bullets are likely loaded to lengths that allow for bullet jump into rifling that enhances accuracy. In other words all the details are thought out and as close a tolerance as factory ammo and rifles will allow for the best accuracy potential.

 

[reloader#1]

Can I ask where you got some ammo? I also am waiting on a 7 prc barrel and have yet to catch any ammo yet. Thanks

I saw it in the Atwood's farm store yesterday here in Oklahoma

 

[vancewalker007]

I just got off the phone with one of my PA buddies.

He was telling me about his successful elk hunt in Montana last month.

He shot a nice bull at 905 yards.

Bergara 300 PRC with Hornady 212ELDX.

$1,000 rifle off the shelf
$500 worth ammo for practicing/ dope chart on the range they cleared.
$700 scope

Legitimate good guy that had never shot at an animal over 350 yards.

He & his buddies worked up a dope card for his rifle.

He was successful because the components were readily available & he worked with those components to make an ethical harvest.

Could he of done the same thing with his 300WM or a Nosler?
Maybe eventually he could have, but not as efficiently as he did with his 300PRC.

That's what I see these PRCs being.

That's why I call my custom 6.5 PRC the easy button. It just shoots.

 

[73driver]

That's why I call my custom 6.5 PRC the easy button. It just shoots.

I agree, have always referred to the 6.5C as the "easy button" for competing in PRS shoots. I must have missed the marketing/hype era for the 6.5C and thus do not have issues with those that like and shoot it. Hornady has done well with the 6.5C and the derivative PRC cartridges not because of marketing but because of well thought out designs and refinements that Remington and Federal never bothered to come up with. From high BC & heavy for caliber bullets to chamber design and close tolerances with faster twist barrels, Hornady has added features to cartridges that other companies failed to imagine. The sum total is that Hornady makes ammo that is designed to accurately perform in rifles with SAAMI chambers that enhance accuracy. Not hype just superior concept. The Hornady offerings might not be eye watering speedsters but they give you off the shelf accuracy. Accuracy you can achieve with other cartridges after having a smith build you up a quality custom rifle and hand loading for it.