Ah1356
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I hope you're right - "this month" ends tomorrow. 
7 mm SHERMAN SHORTMAG vs 7 SAUM
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WiscGunner
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Forster Dies?
elkaholic
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FebruaryI hope you're right - "this month" ends tomorrow.
elkaholic
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Yes.
Ah1356
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February
Just bustin' your chops Rich. No worries. Cheers - Aaron
just got word my action is shipping, now to order a blank:
Im 95% sure im going with a 1-8, but i also have options for 8.25, 8.4 & 9. Any reason not to go w/ the 1-8? I would love to shoot the 195, but realize I may get better performance with the 180 or 184 (I'd like to keep it as a 26" tube unless the overwhelming majority of you are running a 28")
Also, how many of you are running the 7SS through a DBM? Or are most goign the BDL route? If using a DBM, what mag are you running? Is it possible to run the 180gr + through a DBM w/o neutering the round?
Thanks for any advice!
Im 95% sure im going with a 1-8, but i also have options for 8.25, 8.4 & 9. Any reason not to go w/ the 1-8? I would love to shoot the 195, but realize I may get better performance with the 180 or 184 (I'd like to keep it as a 26" tube unless the overwhelming majority of you are running a 28")
Also, how many of you are running the 7SS through a DBM? Or are most goign the BDL route? If using a DBM, what mag are you running? Is it possible to run the 180gr + through a DBM w/o neutering the round?
Thanks for any advice!
elkaholic
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I would go with the 8 twist. A dbm like the Accurate or Alpha mag for the wsm is the best way to go.
thanks for the reply. Any thoughts on 26" vs 28" uses are my "do-all" hunting rifle as well as a steel ringer for 800-1330yd.
elkaholic
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Velocity difference would be about 50-60'
Folks have got great results with both cals here , but for ELR spotting misses in the dirt is always easier
with a heavier bullet . You are going to see more splash in the dirt with say a 180 Berger vs a 140 Berger
6.5 bullet .
Scaling up a little , I regularly shoot 300 NM and 338 LM at ELR distance . Spotting the misses in grass
with the 230 Berger is very difficult , we can almost always see the misses from the 300 Berger : bigger
bullet = more energy more signature . Barrel life and running costs will most likely be longer and cheaper
with 6.5 depending on how hot you load . Guys running 7 SAUMs around here are pulling match barrels
at 1500 ish rounds . Haven't run a 6.5 SAUM , but a friend is and has over 3000 on his latest barrel .
with a heavier bullet . You are going to see more splash in the dirt with say a 180 Berger vs a 140 Berger
6.5 bullet .
Scaling up a little , I regularly shoot 300 NM and 338 LM at ELR distance . Spotting the misses in grass
with the 230 Berger is very difficult , we can almost always see the misses from the 300 Berger : bigger
bullet = more energy more signature . Barrel life and running costs will most likely be longer and cheaper
with 6.5 depending on how hot you load . Guys running 7 SAUMs around here are pulling match barrels
at 1500 ish rounds . Haven't run a 6.5 SAUM , but a friend is and has over 3000 on his latest barrel .
Ive heard this before, but Ive never understood how its possible. This is the only cartridge I know of that people claim the smaller bullet, the longer the barrel life. Some of it has to stem from George Gardners claim of 4000 rounds on a match rifle (but they downplay the fact they run relatively anemic loads to achieve that)
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Ya sorry but there is no way a 6.5 saum is going to get more rounds than a 7 saum using same powder and pressure. Just think about others: 28 Nosler vs 30 Nosler. 7 RUM vs 300 RUM. 6 creed vs 6.5 creed. Same case smaller bullet=less barrel life..
WiscGunner
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The 6.5 Saum is running rather light by design for extended barrel life due to the ease it reaches the max velocity in PRS. The 7Saum is getting pushed a lot harder in typical use I would suspect and thus the 6.5 would shorten up its barrel life too if the speed limit was increased.
5RWill
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Idk we have to push to reach velocities with our 6.5 SAUM 60gr of RL26 certainly isn't mild to reach 3065 with 143s. Granted we opted for a shorter barrel (23') so kind of knew it was coming, but depending on where you are the velocity claims weren't that consistent. I know guys down here that were attempting to get 3100 with 140s with a 26' tube with h1000 and couldn't reach it without pushing. Vice versa Joe Comfort in LA is getting near 3000fps or so with a 21' SAUM with 140s.
Just ordered some 7SS dies and some more brass from Rich. Just need a new bolt and to have it chambered. Will try to have it done before Christmas but we'll have to see how it goes. **** impact bolt is nearly as much as it cost to chamber.
