6.5 creedmoor/6.5 prc recoil

[Deviant]

Yes, you swap the entire trigger assembly out. It's a drop-in unit held in with 2 pins. You might be best to have a professional do it. As for the stock, factory Remington stocks suck...Most factory stocks for all rifles are cheaply made and are not very rigid and stiff. If a stock has flex in it, it's not going to fully hold the recoil lug and action in the same exact place every time, it will flex when the rifle recoils as the shot is fired, and can cause accuracy issues. This is why upper-end rifles that have factory HS Precision and McMillan stocks on them, are typically worth the higher price, because otherwise, you will be upgrading your stock as time goes on, which is going to end up costing you the same amount of money as just buying the higher priced factory rifle with the good stock to begin with.

Granted, I know most folks don't always have the cash to drop on a higher priced rifle...I've been there. So, slowly doing some upgrades like buying a better aftermarket stock, an aftermarket trigger, and having the action bedded and the barrel free-floated can make drastic improvements in the accuracy of a factory barreled action.

I just did this to my nephews Winchester 270 and it went from 3 inch groups down to sub MOA accuracy.

 

[284saum]

I've shot a couple hundred rounds from a 8lb scoped (no brake) 6.5 PRC. Recoil is obviously more than a 260 Rem or 6.5 Creed, but is quite managable. Much less than a 7mm Mag, and noticeably less than an 8lb 280 Ackley

 

[DavidleeCole]

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Okay no problem, what kind of triggers would you recommend to try and get? I'll try a new stock and trigger and see what happens.

Realy love timminy triggers have on my two rifles and they shoot much better now. I agree with the other post put some money in the rifle you love a little at a time when you can. Make a plan for the end product and work towards that goal be careful not to settle for less or one of those that will work for now it always coast more. I started with a .300 weatherby vanguard and love the course of 13 years i have put 4000 dollars in her and the only miss spent money was a cheep stock but I did settle my mind on not getting a chassis and going with a McMillan A5. The end result was years of hunting during the build and going from 2 moa to a constant 1/2 moa group. Good build and good shooting.

 

[WildRose]

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Realy love timminy triggers have on my two rifles and they shoot much better now. I agree with the other post put some money in the rifle you love a little at a time when you can. Make a plan for the end product and work towards that goal be careful not to settle for less or one of those that will work for now it always coast more. I started with a .300 weatherby vanguard and love the course of 13 years i have put 4000 dollars in her and the only miss spent money was a cheep stock but I did settle my mind on not getting a chassis and going with a McMillan A5. The end result was years of hunting during the build and going from 2 moa to a constant 1/2 moa group. Good build and good shooting.

You can't beat the sense of pride and accomplishment that comes along with a project like that.

 

[WalksLikeADeer]

Just curious if anyone has shot a 6.5 prc and how the recoil is Vs a 6.5 creedmoor? I have a 7mm rem mag with a muzzle break 26" barerel shooting 162 grain eld-x using a Zeiss conquest 4-12 scope and I just can't quite get the groups tight I don't know what it is? I'm just thinking human error with recoil? I have a sheep hunt in Alaska in 2019 and want to be confident shooting tight groups. Any advise would be awesome thanks.

Try Berger 168gr VLD Hunting bullets and see if your problem goes away?

I spent months and many dollars trying to get the 162 ELD-X to shoot in my 7mm Rem mag to no avail. I checked scope, rings, bedding, shooting fundamentals, hand loading techniques, etc. On occasion I would get .75" groups but mostly 2.5-3" groups at 100 yds!

One day I thought I would try my old Berger handloads and shot .33"! Every group was under .75".

With some seating depth tweaking I'm shooting .35" fairly consistently.

I've talked to 2 other guys at the range that were getting 2-3" groups with ELD-X bullets also.

I know some can get them to shoot and that is great but they didn't work for me.

 

[WalksLikeADeer]

Still think the 6.5 prc would have less recoil than my 7mm rem mag even if it has a muzzle break?

I can say this, my braked 7mm Rem Mag shooting 168 gr definitely has less recoil than my unbraked .243 Win shooting 100 gr bullets. I shot both side by side the other day and it was very obvious.

 

[ssi]

Just curious if anyone has shot a 6.5 prc and how the recoil is Vs a 6.5 creedmoor? I have a 7mm rem mag with a muzzle break 26" barerel shooting 162 grain eld-x using a Zeiss conquest 4-12 scope and I just can't quite get the groups tight I don't know what it is? I'm just thinking human error with recoil? I have a sheep hunt in Alaska in 2019 and want to be confident shooting tight groups. Any advise would be awesome thanks.

On the 7mm Rem. Check your Cartridge OAL and lead. Author Layne Simpson has been my go to "Pro" for a couple of decades. His reloading methodology is outstanding, scientific, and practical. I recently read a review of his on the Mauser M18 in your caliber. I think it was Rifle Shooter Magazine. He discussed his reloading methodology in detail. I'm a precision person over velocity guy myself. Good hunting. Be safe. Google Layne Simpson.

 

[captacademy]

I have the 6.5 Creed, 6.5 PRC, 7mm Mag and the 6.5x284. For hunting deer and below I feel the 6.5 PRC and 6.5x284 are perfect for the largest deer and Elk under 600 yards. Recoil for the 6.5 Creed is a bit less than the others, but the PRC and 6.5x 284 are pleasant to shoot. Accuracy is outstanding on all, under 1/2" on all.

 

[Bigaldepr]

From my limited experience the typical 9.5 twist rate for the 7mm RM is fine for a 162 grain bullet. Most likely as mentioned before the problem is the stock. I have used the Bell and Carlson stock (~$270 from Stocky's) which is a very good modestly priced alternative to the more expensive HS Precision and McMillan stocks. Fully floated with a solid aluminum bed. I also replaced the stock trigger with a Timney trigger, adjustable with a very clean break (< $200 at MidwayUSA). For sheep a 120-140 grn. bullet will give a flatter trajectory and will be more than enough to DRT a sheep when launched from a 7mm RM. Anyway the cartridge is not the problem.

 

[WalksLikeADeer]

Just curious if anyone has shot a 6.5 prc and how the recoil is Vs a 6.5 creedmoor? I have a 7mm rem mag with a muzzle break 26" barerel shooting 162 grain eld-x using a Zeiss conquest 4-12 scope and I just can't quite get the groups tight I don't know what it is? I'm just thinking human error with recoil? I have a sheep hunt in Alaska in 2019 and want to be confident shooting tight groups. Any advise would be awesome thanks.

PLEASE let us know after you spend $400 on a stock and $200 on a trigger how the ELD-X bullets shoot? I will be very curious. Thanks.

 

[Andy92]

Did do it, took my gun to a gun smith and said my barrel was gone

PLEASE let us know after you spend $400 on a stock and $200 on a trigger how the ELD-X bullets shoot? I will be very curious. Thanks.

 

[WalksLikeADeer]

Did do it, took my gun to a gun smith and said my barrel was gone

Wow! That's too bad. How many rounds have you had through it?

 

[WildRose]

Did do it, took my gun to a gun smith and said my barrel was gone

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully you've learned enough to be kinder to the next one.

I burned through way too many barrels when I was young with max loads, shooting them hot, very long shot strings etc, basically everything I could do unwittingly to burn them out.

Getting older may not be making me any wiser but as I get poorer I do seem to get smarter. HA~

 

[Andy92]

Honestly I bought it used only had it about 3 months, some people I know with 7mm's say copper fouling was an issue, I cleaned it with 2 different products for copper fouling till it was spotless and made a small difference but still couldn't get a proper group at 100yds, best group was 4"

Wow! That's too bad. How many rounds have you had through it?