308 enough for brown/polar bear?

[Turpentine21]

Well I can tell you African PHs and most full time guides get it right a whole lot more often than they get it wrong. There are a lot of dude hunters that owe their lives to the excellent skills of these people. The experience and expertise is so far above the average person on this or any other forum, it is hard to believe. Those of you making sport of the ones unlucky enough to get it wrong are really aholes with a far over developed sense of your own importance and knowledge. Take a step back and give your head a shake, your impotence is glaringly obvious

Once again, were you referring to me. If so I hope you enjoyed your little internet rant. I'll keep this civil. I don't take lightly to name calling. Particularly when you don't know a thing about me. You are free to not read my posts or hit the ignore button at any time.

 

[Idaho Lefty]

Didn't mean to go off topic. Just trying to emphasize the lack of reaction time someone has when charged by a man and that the time can be even less when charged by an animal. You don't get much time to react.

EXACTLY !! This ^^^
And,. Hence Why, My personal "Choice" would Be, a QUICK, "Double Tap" from, a Double Rifle at, Under 50 Yards from, a "Charging",.. Anything !
Again, This would Be, MY own,.. Personal Choice, the rest of, you Guys can do whatever,.. YOU,.. "Think" is,. best !

 

[memtb]

Didn't mean to go off topic. Just trying to emphasize the lack of reaction time someone has when charged by a man and that the time can be even less when charged by an animal. You don't get much time to react.

I'm in total agreement…..just couldn't restrain from mentioning the human angle! Generally, humans move much slower than animals…..unless you're attacked by a Sloth! memtb

 

[memtb]

Didn't mean to go off topic. Just trying to emphasize the lack of reaction time someone has when charged by a man and that the time can be even less when charged by an animal. You don't get much time to react.

I was referring to "me" being off topic! Yours was a good example! memtb

 

[Turpentine21]

EXACTLY !! This ^^^
And,. Hence Why, My personal "Choice" would Be, a QUICK, "Double Tap" from, a Double Rifle at, Under 50 Yards from, a "Charging",.. Anything !
Again, This would Be, MY own,.. Personal Choice, the rest of, you Guys can do whatever,.. YOU,.. "Think" is,. best !

You made a good point and I completely understand why you would choose what you did. It's a solid choice. Bolt actions are slow.
For me an auto loading Beretta with large diameter buckshot or slugs would be my 1st choice because I am very quick with one and I don't have to get it to my shoulder to be accurate. That goes back to my trickshooting days. There aren't many brands of shotgun I would trust but I would trust a Beretta.

 

[Turpentine21]

I was referring to "me" being off topic! Yours was a good example! memtb

You and I are always a little bit "off". Topic that is. But I enjoy your posts and loyalty to the 338 win.

 

[memtb]

You and I are always a little bit "off". Topic that is. But I enjoy your posts and loyalty to the 338 win.

Thank You!

I really do like the .338 WM……but, the only one we have belongs to my wife! My favorite cartridge is a few popular diameters up from the .338! memtb

 

[Turpentine21]

Thank You!

I really do like the .338 WM……but, the only one we have belongs to my wife! My favorite cartridge is a few popular diameters up from the .338! memtb

My wife inherited a beautiful little Miroku 20 over and under. Her dad always let me shoot it and I am lights out with it. It's like it was built for me. She refuses to let me use it! Go figure

 

[ObiJohn]

The Russian bear "hunting" video was a bit disappointing. IMO that's bear shooting, no different than shooting rats in a barn.

I don't doubt the 7.62x39 in an autoloader would be suitable for bear defense. It's effectively a .30-30 or thereabouts, and putting 6 or 7 .30-30 holes in a bear's boiler room at close range would work. AKs are the favorite weapon of African ivory and rhino horn poachers... two or three poachers dumping their mags of FMJ into an elephant at close range will work... hopefully not before the elephant catches up with one of its assailants. Is the 7.62x39 a good choice? Not if something better... larger diameter, faster, with better bullets... is available.

 

[Turpentine21]

The Russian bear "hunting" video was a bit disappointing. IMO that's bear shooting, no different than shooting rats in a barn.

I don't doubt the 7.62x39 in an autoloader would be suitable for bear defense. It's effectively a .30-30 or thereabouts, and putting 6 or 7 .30-30 holes in a bear's boiler room at close range would work. AKs are the favorite weapon of African ivory and rhino horn poachers... two or three poachers dumping their mags of FMJ into an elephant at close range will work... hopefully not before the elephant catches up with one of its assailants. Is the 7.62x39 a good choice? Not if something better... larger diameter, faster, with better bullets... is available.

I was very surprised some of the dogs didn't get hit. Certainly not the type of "hunt" I would want to be involved in.

 

[Idaho Lefty]

You made a good point and I completely understand why you would choose what you did. It's a solid choice. Bolt actions are slow.
For me an auto loading Beretta with large diameter buckshot or slugs would be my 1st choice because I am very quick with one and I don't have to get it to my shoulder to be accurate. That goes back to my trickshooting days. There aren't many brands of shotgun I would trust but I would trust a Beretta.

Yup,. I LOVE, my Beretta, semi Auto, Shotguns !!
I Have, 2 Beretta A-303's,. a 20 ga and a 12 Gauge !
Won, a Couple of, Live Pigeon and Sporting Clays, shoots with, the 12 Ga,.. "Back in the Day", when,.. Much Younger ( Mid 1980's ! )
They're Great for, Ducks and Chuckars, Too !
For Doubles Trap,. I shot, Krieghoff's and Perazzi O/U's and was averaging around, 95-96 Out of 100 at, "the Top of My Game"
I WAS, much sharper, precise / deadly and, Faster,. in my 20's ad 30's ( Obviously ) LOL !

 

[TonyRumore]

FWIW, I've got a semi-auto chambered in 458 Lott, 5+1 capacity. It weighs 11.5 pounds scoped and loaded up. I need to take some video of it in action. I'm getting ready to build up another one in 375 RUM. The magazine can handle rounds as long as 3.850".

Tony Rumore
Tromix

 

[memtb]

FWIW, I've got a semi-auto chambered in 458 Lott, 5+1 capacity. It weighs 11.5 pounds scoped and loaded up. I need to take some video of it in action.

Tony Rumore
Tromix

Other than the weight……that's a semi that I could be attracted to! memtb

 

[comfisherman]

Often thought a benelli r1 rebored to 375 ruger would be something, although they made a 338 win mag that's probably enough.