30 NOSLER OR 300 PRC

[L.Sherm]

How many factory 300 PRC's

 

[gregsjt]

I know, we are splitting hairs. Just to be clear I think the Nosler is a good design, I think they screwed the pooch by making it 3.4" instead of 3.6" but even so it is a good cartridge. I just think the PRC was better thought out and better suited to the long range game, which is why I think it will end up being pretty popular. My only gripe is that guys only look at performance and miss a lot of other factors that should be considered.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Every 30 Nosler I have built with my reamer runs 215s at 3100 using H1000 in a 26" barrel. I dont want a 215 going any faster. And that was soft Nosler brass. Accuracy has been excellent. Just waiting on a stock and I'll be building myself another 30 nosler, this time to push a handmade 204 grain Benchrest bullet built on the J4 hunting jacket. Should perform like a Berger on elk but no more sorting or looking for good lots

 

[L.Sherm]

I agree Nosler screwed the pooch on there saami spec. The only thing the PRC has going for it is there freebore spec.
It will only fit in a few factory actions without modifications. The 30 Nosler from a pure factory form using there factory ammo will fit in any factory action with factory mag box. Even though I dont like the 30 Nosler in its factory form.

 

[L.Sherm]

I dont wanna derail this Alex but why not a 30-28?

 

[gregsjt]

Why doesn't Ruger offer the Nosler in an RPR? Why doesn't Tikka offer it? No one I know of offers it in rifles except Christensen and Nosler. That's my point, a guy who doesn't know anything about freebore or saami specs or hand loading can go buy an RPR or a Remington or a Bergara they can buy ammo that costs 40 dollars not 85 and go shoot to a mile or more.

 

[L.Sherm]

So a guy that knows nothing about freebore or handloading is gonna buy a 300 PRC and a box of ammo and start shooting a mile!

 

[Alex Wheeler]

With the excellent adg brass, I dont see a point for my needs. The 30-28 for me was always about brass life not performance. And even though I had great accuracy with no turns with the 30-28 I still like to turn necks if I neck up or down.

 

[gregsjt]

So a guy that knows nothing about freebore or handloading is gonna buy a 300 PRC and a box of ammo and start shooting a mile!

I'm sure that's not where they start, but they could get there with that combination. I know lots of people that have been around guns there entire lives and they don't know what freebore means. A couple of them make hits all day long at 1100 with their Creedmoor RPR's, they don't hand load either.

But you didn't answer my question. If the Nosler is so much better suited to factory rifles, why doesn't anyone chamber rifles for it?

 

[Nomosendero]

I feel like a broken record but if all you're looking at is pure velocity than you're missing the point about the PRC. Go try to find factory loaded 300 RUM ammo with a 215, 230 Berger or a 225 ELDM. The PRC is set up to work in factory guns with factory ammo, that's its niche, no one ever claimed its the fastest or the best, it serves a very specific niche in the market that almost no other factory 30 caliber round can match.

Yes, that's it, the same marketing and filling a need (perceived or not) to those who are not into the sport as much as LRH viewers. I don't care either way, I love the 300WM & will likely get one of these 2 in the future but I reload and don't care much how it shakes.
However, back to the market at large, I see a lot of folks kidding themselves because everyone in this discussion deep down knows which of these 2 will be on the shelves
a few years down the road & just like the 260 vs 6.5CM noise, we know which round is on the shelves & which chambering is available in about any rifle worth discussing and which rounds is getting more and more brands of brass, but yes the 260 reloaders can keep going and it will be the same for the Nos, so blaaah blaah!! If that extra 50-100fps is a game changer then be happy and go for it.

 

[WildRose]

You better let Hornady and Nosler know this so they can get ALL of the hunting ammo on the shelves pulled!!!

Why is that? What I said is completely accurate. Nowhere did I say they aren't decent hunting rounds or that Hornady wouldn't take advantage of the hunting market once the rounds took off.

 

[WildRose]

The 300 PRC must work ok in a Ruger:

//www.ammoland.com/2019/04/ruger-precision-rifle-now-chambered-in-300-prc-and-6-5-prc/#axzz5rLUuwH7Q

There's no reason they shouldn't perform well in any make of quality rifle.

 

[Deleted member 25294]

Hey I'm just comparing apples to apples.
Unless you buy a remington or Ruger RPR I dont know of any other factory rifle.

CA Ridgline is on the streets in 300 PRC.
My buddy just picked his up

I'm sure that's not where they start, but they could get there with that combination. I know lots of people that have been around guns there entire lives and they don't know what freebore means. A couple of them make hits all day long at 1100 with their Creedmoor RPR's

My buddy who just got the Ridgeline 300 PRC is a great example of this.
He's a very capable LR shooter and SWAT operater, and has taken more coyotes beyond 500 yards than anyone I know.
He doesn't handload so I've been hooking him up, total pain though since he lives 6 hours away.
He's been killing it with factory ammo in his 6.5 Creed, the 300 PRC will handle LR elk.
And now he won't rely on me loading for his 7 RM

 

[Deleted member 25294]

So a guy that knows nothing about freebore or handloading is gonna buy a 300 PRC and a box of ammo and start shooting a mile!

I agree with you that a 30 nos is awesome.
I went 300 NM personally, I shoot a lot and in the few weeks that I've had my NM i already put almost 200 rounds through it..

I'm beginning to wonder if burning 10 more grains of powder, enduring more muzzle blast and recoil, and suffering shorter barrel life is worth the 100 fps that I'm getting over a 300 PRC??