Your Personal RESULTS with custom long range HUNTING rifles built buy a PROFESSIONAL?

I've watched this discussion from the beginning. I've been supporting custom gun smiths for years now - both in my personal collection as well as offering select and limited numbers of productions in my retail operations. It all started at the SCI show back in 1986 when I got to get up close and personal with some other better/best known players.

As a result, I've had rifles built by:

Brown Precision - after meeting Chet (the inventor of the fiberglass stock) and his son, Mark. I've had over 15 of their works in my safe over the years since then. They all shot great. I experimented with their stocks and bedding on factory rifles. ALL shot better after being restocked and bedded. Nice, clean work on them all. Known mostly for the Remington work, they also built on Montana and Mauser actions for me. All to my spec. They all shot consistently great.

Frank Wells - slow but accommodating. I had a few visions in the early days of re-creating certain old school dangerous game rifles. He did a great job on those - and they all shot great.

Fred Wells - slow to deliver, but high quality and meticulous detail. Great shooters.

Two years ago, I dove off the LRH cliff and ordered actions from Terminus. I procured the stocks, barrels (Bart's), triggers, rings and scopes. I had Long Rifles Inc., Sturgis, SD - do the machining and assembly. I got 'new world' results. Not great shooters - boringly unbelievably good shooters!

So what's the difference? The biggest difference is in the growth of my own knowledge, and the ability to more fully articulate what I was looking for. In the 'old' days of the custom trade, there wasn't a lot of talk of twist rates and wildcats with the higher output shops. It was as crude as spec the caliber, barrel length and the action, along with stock material and design process. My, how things have changed.

The bottom line here, in my opinion, is that quality components and quality machine work will yield a reliable shooter. You can get that off the rack sometimes. But I like the involvement in the process, the personal details that you get to express, and the overall confidence that comes with the closer relationship you have with the tool.
 
Had a custom 6.5GAP4S built by GA Precision back in 2013. Their extreme hunter model. Went with the S&B PMII10x42 fixed with P3 reticle per advice of a certain friend and hunter/coyote assassin from Montana. Used the load recommended by GAP and it absolutely drills.
I'd recommend George and his crew to my family, friends and even my enemies if I had them.
Now there's an idea that NEVER crossed my mind....telling any Enemy....where to buy a better gun!... that could be the last advice you ever give!
 
My first custom built at SG&Y in Roanoak years ago by Speedy was my eye opening experience on customs. I couldn't find a bad load for that rifle, a plain old 30-06 on a 700 action he worked over. I started tinkering with building my own at that point, and found a semi retired smith to give me advice when needed. I was only interested in building rifles, but he insisted I know all there is to know about 1100 shotguns. That was painful coming from an A5 family. Since then, I have built my own, and my methods have changed four times. I shoot with guys that have Alamo, GAP, Lane, Jon Trammel, and Beanland rifles. All are stellar and I would recommend all of them.
My Fellow Texan a rifle lover. Speedy got me started in this "stuff" in 2000.
 
In preparation for a Montana Elk hunting trip in a few weeks, me and the party members went to the range today. Here is what my 16-year-old Grandsons LANE PRECISSION RIFLE shot at 200 yards.
 

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It's amazing, all the .25 minute rifles 😂


How about the shooters?

It does happen for me, like every now and then. I do not think I could pull off a .25 group in a compromised position after hiking all day like I do while hunting. Add the excitement and other variables, And I bet it's more like 2MOA group. I worry about that way more than my rifle, and that is what I spend my time practicing.
 
I would like to hear only firsthand accuracy results from people who have had a long-range hunting rifle/scope system built buy a professional gunsmith/company. Secondly, have you had them develop a round and bought ammunition from them and was it truly consistently accurate, and the tracking was good as adjustments were made for various yardage (400 - 800)? The focus is on repeatable, accurate built rifles and ammunition, and we'll see if there is a common denominator! NOT interested in this post discussing ethics/calibers, etc. If you would recommend family to use this builder, I would appreciate you sharing the specifics on your triedd and true rifle.
I have been fortunate to have the opportunity to shoot a gambit of "custom" rifles including a turn key package w/ custom loads from a premium builder. The fact of the matter is you can you can buy a very accurate and very repeatable rifle from most of the well known builders these days, it all depends on how much you're willing to spend. I've seen everything from 3/4 MOA to 1/4 MOA but most fall somewhere in the middle. As far as a turn key package (gun, ammo, optic, etc…) the final product falls within those same areas of accuracy. Personally I have seen some "lower priced" customs outshoot high dollar boutique brands and vise versa. As far as accuracy with the custom loads it was acceptable but it wasn't pinpoint accurate. The rifle was built and zeroed at a much higher elevation/DA than where I live and there were corrections that needed to be made. Grouping was consistent though.

I personally don't believe that there is a company out there that can send you, even a complete kit, that will not require some adjustments somewhere. They might get close but not perfect. Just my opinion.
 
I have a full custom McWhorter in 300 WM, another 280 AI that I supplied the action and they both shoot lights out! I had them develop loads for both guns.
I have also had a few "Custom builders" build a few for me that came out just ok, over the years with no load development.
The McWhorters shoot well under .5 MOA, they shoot better than I can.
Whay scopes did you put on each rifle?
 

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