Wyo Task Force - Nonres Comments!
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adam32+P
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The game doesn't know if it's a non-res or res shooting it. So unless they are proposing to also drastically CUT tags across the State then the game management argument doesn't hold water.
As far as I can read, the amount of overall tags will stay the same?
You dont get it, more residents equal more people which equal more competition for tags as residents, so you give residents more tags less NR tags simply math.
Another negative that will come out if 90/10 passes in Wyo as the same thing will likely happen in Colorado. You can bet that Colo residents are going to complain when up to 35% of limited deer, elk, and antelope tags are issued to nonres. The real losers are the nonres!
I'm a Colo res and don't support this in Wyo just as I don't support it in my home state of Colo. It really bums me out that nonres hunters have applied for tags and paid high pref pt fees for up to 25+ years and are screwed! Not only that but nonres support local community revenues. Here in Colo small off the grid towns like Craig and Meeker in NW Colo get an incredible amount of revenue each year from nonres. The same is true in small towns in Wyo.
There are a lot of nonres that live in states where there are very few big game species options other than whitetails. 90/10 will cut their opportunity in 1/2. Young hunters just starting out may never catch up applying and paying high $ pref pt fees for the opportunity to hunt muledeer, elk, and antelope.
Wyo residents have the opportunity to draw and hunt with up to 12 big game tags/year. Wyo res can also hunt elk and deer each and every year in general units. You want to talk about opportunity....Wyo res have plenty! If they don't fill their freezer there is something definitely wrong!
Anyway, there are a number of different options that the Task Force probably haven't even discussed yet that should be considered before cutting 1/2 of the nonres high demand limited tags with 90/10!
I'm a Colo res and don't support this in Wyo just as I don't support it in my home state of Colo. It really bums me out that nonres hunters have applied for tags and paid high pref pt fees for up to 25+ years and are screwed! Not only that but nonres support local community revenues. Here in Colo small off the grid towns like Craig and Meeker in NW Colo get an incredible amount of revenue each year from nonres. The same is true in small towns in Wyo.
There are a lot of nonres that live in states where there are very few big game species options other than whitetails. 90/10 will cut their opportunity in 1/2. Young hunters just starting out may never catch up applying and paying high $ pref pt fees for the opportunity to hunt muledeer, elk, and antelope.
Wyo residents have the opportunity to draw and hunt with up to 12 big game tags/year. Wyo res can also hunt elk and deer each and every year in general units. You want to talk about opportunity....Wyo res have plenty! If they don't fill their freezer there is something definitely wrong!
Anyway, there are a number of different options that the Task Force probably haven't even discussed yet that should be considered before cutting 1/2 of the nonres high demand limited tags with 90/10!
. First you say this
Example you never commented on my post about 48%of WY being federally owned.
Do you think a resident of any state that has federal land owned by all Americans should basically hold exclusive rights to use it ?
Then when informed it's not going to change the number of tags. You change your tune and say this.
Seems to me you are just arguing for the sake arguing. Because it doesn't seem you take any of the many valid points from either side into consideration.
Example you never commented on my post about 48%of WY being federally owned.
Do you think a resident of any state that has federal land owned by all Americans should basically hold exclusive rights to use it ?
Name me one other state who manages there game differently on federal land?
You wanna come and play for a week or 2 then go home and leave the residents to deal with the aftermath 360 days a year, thats B.S
Rick Richard
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I am curious how many pages this topic will go. Nothing new and discussion redundant. Ever hear the expression "beating a dead horse".
adam32+P
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What aftermath? You make it seem like ALL non-res hunters just destroy everything in their path...BUT you're also a non-res hunter so are you including yourself in your blanket statements?
Listen im gonna make one last comment then this thread goes on ignore.
ITS CALLED STATES RIGHTS!! to do as they seem fit whether you like it or I like it PERIOD! no different than me telling California, Wisconsin, Wyoming etc what they should be doing.
ITS CALLED STATES RIGHTS!! to do as they seem fit whether you like it or I like it PERIOD! no different than me telling California, Wisconsin, Wyoming etc what they should be doing.
turkeyfever
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I could care less what happens to residents or non residents that hunt or fish Wyoming. I have never put in for a hunt or going to. But when you look at who spends the money to hunt and fish this state around 77% of license sales are non residents.
Wyoming Game and Fish Commission Revenue
The Wyoming Game and Fish Commission's (Commission) revenue is generated from fish and wildlife constituents, associated federal funding sources, grants, donations, and from Commission owned property. The Commission receives no State General Funds. Revenue can be broken into five main categories and is reflective only of revenue that can be expended.
Updated Sept. 2020
The Wyoming Game and Fish Commission's yearly revenue is approximately $88.5 million. This includes hunting and fishing licens- es, conservation stamps and fees, preference points, boat registration, Super Tag and Federal Aid. The majority of the revenue, $75.7 million or 85%, comes from hunters, anglers, recreational shooters, and boaters.
Of the $56.3 million that comes from license revenue, approximately 77% comes from nonresidents.
Prior to the current fiscal year, the Commission received approximately $800,000 annually from the State General Fund for license recoupment to offset the revenue lost from free and reduced price licenses. This year General Fund support was eliminated to aid in the State's current financial crisis.
The Commission's budget is based on needs and identified priorities. When revenue exceeds the budget, the Commission places those funds in a reserve similar to a personal savings account. This reserve is for emergencies and allocating funding to significant projects, including capitol construction, wildlife crossings and wildlife research.
All funds tied to license revenue must be controlled by the Commission and spent on approved wildlife related activities to meet the requirements of Federal Aid.
Wyoming Game and Fish Commission Revenue
Updated Sept 2020
Current License Revenue
Wyoming Game and Fish Commission Revenue
The Wyoming Game and Fish Commission's (Commission) revenue is generated from fish and wildlife constituents, associated federal funding sources, grants, donations, and from Commission owned property. The Commission receives no State General Funds. Revenue can be broken into five main categories and is reflective only of revenue that can be expended.
Updated Sept. 2020
| License Revenue This includes hunting and fishing licenses sales, conservation stamps and fees, preference point sales, boat registration fees and the Super Tag program. | $56,363,841 |
| Federal Aid (PR/DJ) Federal aid includes Pittman-Robertson (PR) and Dingell Johnson (DJ) funds from federal excise tax on sporting arms, ammunition and fishing and boating equipment. Funds are apportioned to state wildlife agencies for con- servation work, hunter education programs, operation of archery and shooting ranges, and sport fisheries work. The Commission must match funds derived from PR/DJ at a rate of 25% state and 75% federal. | $19,400,000 |
| Grants Grant funds awarded to the Department from conservation and other partners to achieve specific outcomes that benefit the Department's mission. | $6,400,000 |
| Interest Interest generated from Commission accounts. | $2,700,000 |
| Other Revenue generated from Commission owned property, magazine publication sales, Access Yes donations and other miscellaneous items. | $3,700,000 |
| Total | $88,563,841 |
Of the $56.3 million that comes from license revenue, approximately 77% comes from nonresidents.
Prior to the current fiscal year, the Commission received approximately $800,000 annually from the State General Fund for license recoupment to offset the revenue lost from free and reduced price licenses. This year General Fund support was eliminated to aid in the State's current financial crisis.
The Commission's budget is based on needs and identified priorities. When revenue exceeds the budget, the Commission places those funds in a reserve similar to a personal savings account. This reserve is for emergencies and allocating funding to significant projects, including capitol construction, wildlife crossings and wildlife research.
All funds tied to license revenue must be controlled by the Commission and spent on approved wildlife related activities to meet the requirements of Federal Aid.
Wyoming Game and Fish Commission Revenue
Updated Sept 2020
Current License Revenue
| Product Type | Nonresident Sales | Resident Sales | Total | % of Revenue from Nonresidents |
| Antelope | $ 6,658,986 | $ 916,345 | $ 7,575,331 | 88% |
| Archery | $ 377,700 | $ 232,868 | $ 610,568 | 62% |
| Bighorn Sheep | $ 99,760 | $ 19,608 | $ 119,368 | 84% |
| Black Bear | $ 176,429 | $ 191,102 | $ 367,531 | 48% |
| Deer | $ 8,062,641 | $ 1,949,569 | $ 10,012,210 | 81% |
| Elk | $ 8,295,614 | $ 2,818,404 | $ 11,114,018 | 75% |
| Fishing | $ 5,317,794 | $ 2,181,663 | $ 7,499,457 | 71% |
| Furbearing/Trapping | $ 11,703 | $ 105,600 | $ 117,303 | 10% |
| Game Bird/Small Game | $ 342,314 | $ 362,298 | $ 704,612 | 49% |
| Gray Wolf | $ 28,798 | $ 36,372 | $ 65,170 | 44% |
| Moose | $ 126,848 | $ 37,392 | $ 164,240 | 77% |
| Mountain Goat | $ 47,564 | $ 12,312 | $ 59,876 | 79% |
| Mountain Lion | $ 105,835 | $ 78,744 | $ 184,579 | 57% |
| Wild Bison | $ 134,818 | $ 49,884 | $ 184,702 | 73% |
| Wild Turkey | $ 138,084 | $ 93,566 | $ 231,650 | 60% |
| License to Capture Falcon | $ 2,241 | $ 1,209 | $ 3,450 | 65% |
| Fur Dealer | $ 3,705 | $ 864 | $ 4,569 | 81% |
| Taxidermist | $ 1,446 | $ 14,904 | $ 16,350 | 9% |
| Applications | $ 1,888,125 | $ 778,915 | $ 2,667,040 | 71% |
| Conservation Stamps | $ 899,156 | NA | ||
| Preference Points | $ 12,091,618 | $ 101,983 | $ 12,193,601 | 99% |
| Watercraft Registration | $ 655,340 | 0% | ||
| Super Tag | $ 1,141,900 | NA | ||
| Tags and Permits | $ 466,980 | NA | ||
| Other Licenses | $ 90,062 | NA | ||
| License Agent Commissions | - $318,938 | - $384,144 | - $703,082 | 45% |
| License Agent Commissions not resident specific | - $82,140 | NA | ||
| Total | $ 43,593,085 | $ 9,599,458 | $ 56,363,841 | 77% |
