Which of your guns are really most important?

[memtb]

these discussions

these discussions have huge value - even if off direct topic - read and learn

My biggest take-away, or gain of knowledge with this scenario is.....many folks have "zero" concept of the skills or materials needed for survival. This may sound "blasphemous", as we are on a firearms forum......but, firearms are but a very minor part of survival! memtb

 

[264 Win Mag Man]

22lr for weight and number of rounds. Plus you can find them in more places, almost every gun owner has a 22lr. It will killalmost everything.

 

[sawzall]

My 50 cal savage muzzleloader. I shoot 43 grains of 5744 at 2100fps with hot Adt 458dia and 300 grain bullets with the orange mmp sabot . It will take any thing in North America . I routinely shoot it to 300 yards and have never missed with it . It will do everything I need it to do . The one pound of powder will net me 300 shots so carrying the ammo powder and primers and sobots weigh in at a whopping 6 pounds .

I think your math needs some work... there's only 7000 grains of powder in a pound. At 43 grains per load that only gets you 162 loads. Also, 300 bullets at 300 grains each is almost 13lb.

 

[Jim’s Hunt]

We had so much fun with the 5 gun thread lets play a new game. Here are the rules: You have a safe full of guns, and not a single round of ammo. You have plenty of bullets, powder, cases, and 1000 each of LRM, LR, SR, 209 and LP primers in your stash. The problem is Society has broken down overnight and you are unsafe at home. You will have to bug out to a remote location with your family in tow. You very well may have to walk a big part of the way with everything you need on both your and your wife's back. You have a wife and two small children that you will have to both protect and provide for. What do you load for and how much? Remember all the other stuff you will have to carry so what is really important to you? I would first choose a 22RF but that's against the rules, you have to load them and you don't have a lot of time.

I'm calling BS on walking! I'm 70 and my wife is 69 to fricking old and fat to walk I'm taking my truck toy hauler toys and firearms/ammo and head to the hills. I live in a rather remote mountain valley of colorado

 

[Black Tail Hunter]

" A safe full of guns and not a single round of ammo" I can imagine some people I know in that situation, none of which frequent this site HAHAHAHA.

I would jump on my Ammomaster and my kid would be on the RCII / Piggyback loading 5.56 double time. 55gr Vmax cause i typically have those handy. Fill 7 Pmags, 6 for the plate carrier 1 for the rifle and go. Probably accomplished in under an hour.

 

[QuietTexan]

We treat gun ownership as a hobby, not a survival necessity.

Kind of disagree with that. This is specifically a place for one particular niche - people who are serious about making first round hits at long distances. That's an important and multi-facetted skill with a lot of applications, but just one of many.

We're here to mainly talk about that niche; there are other places to get into a detailed discussion of how to run WVO or rebuild injectors in IDI diesels, or how to run a sustainable vegetable garden, or who to preserve seasonal fruits without refrigeration etc etc etc.

 

[wilkup]

We had so much fun with the 5 gun thread lets play a new game. Here are the rules: You have a safe full of guns, and not a single round of ammo. You have plenty of bullets, powder, cases, and 1000 each of LRM, LR, SR, 209 and LP primers in your stash. The problem is Society has broken down overnight and you are unsafe at home. You will have to bug out to a remote location with your family in tow. You very well may have to walk a big part of the way with everything you need on both your and your wife's back. You have a wife and two small children that you will have to both protect and provide for. What do you load for and how much? Remember all the other stuff you will have to carry so what is really important to you? I would first choose a 22RF but that's against the rules, you have to load them and you don't have a lot of time.

It'd be really tough to beat a suppressed AR chambered for 300Blk with a folding stock to keep it compact, topped with the basic goodies - light, laser, red dot and 3x magnifier.
I'd probably only bring 350 rounds with me if I were required to travel on foot and was playing by the prescribed rules above.
I'd feel well armed for defense or hunting inside 300 yards with such a setup.
I started thinking about this a few years ago though and would be gtg out of the gates. My wife and I have no kids to worry about, have horses, and a donkey. I'm currently setup to leave at a moments notice.

 

[Canhunter35]

A 6.5cm or 308, I would load everything I had, srp and lrp, would give me the most rounds then I would bury in sealed containers what I couldn't carry so I could return and fetch down the road. I would take my lightest best rifle, a bolt gun so it's reliable and doesn't need much cleaning, and a can of spray lube lol

 

[Orange Dust]

Kind of disagree with that. This is specifically a place for one particular niche - people who are serious about making first round hits at long distances. That's an important and multi-facetted skill with a lot of applications, but just one of many.

We're here to mainly talk about that niche; there are other places to get into a detailed discussion of how to run WVO or rebuild injectors in IDI diesels, or how to run a sustainable vegetable garden, or who to preserve seasonal fruits without refrigeration etc etc etc.

I agree completely. Don't you find it interesting that almost no one would choose to take those guns given the crowd here? Does that not regulate them to a hobby instead of a necessity?

 

[xsn10s]

Is this a secret ATF survey?

I think I'd stay home and listen to James Taylor. And then write a letter expounding the benefits of a good jobs program.

 

[QuietTexan]

You scenario was very specific in that you had to carry what you picked, had kids in tow, and the world was ending. If the home base wasn't directly threatened by the neighbors and I was manning the barricade or fighting an insurgency against foreign "peacekeepers" then the 338 Lapua Mag would be coming out instead of a survival rifle.

 

[Orange Dust]

You scenario was very specific in that you had to carry what you picked, had kids in tow, and the world was ending. If the home base wasn't directly threatened by the neighbors and I was manning the barricade or fighting an insurgency against foreign "peacekeepers" then the 338 Lapua Mag would be coming out instead of a survival rifle.

YUP

 

[wilkup]

A 6.5cm or 308, I would load everything I had, srp and lrp, would give me the most rounds then I would bury in sealed containers what I couldn't carry so I could return and fetch down the road. I would take my lightest best rifle, a bolt gun so it's reliable and doesn't need much cleaning, and a can of spray lube lol

That is something I hadn't previously considered. I LOVE the idea of Ammo caches!

 

[SALTINE WARRIOR]

If I still had it, it would be the AR15 in 5.56 and a .22lr conversion kit.