Which mainstream cartridge to go obsolete because of the 6 & 6.5 CM

[Bigeclipse]

I think it will be forever before 243,270,308,30-30, 30-06, 300 win mag, 7mm rem mag goes obsolete. They will have invented something besides conventional ammunition to hunt with before these go obsolete. They are all in the top ten most cartridges sold by ammo manufactureres each year. These rounds will always be cheaper than most any other centerfire cartridges for meduim game hunting. And will always be more readily available. 6.5 creedmoor has moved in there with them as well. It has just joined that group, not necessarily pushing one of them out. I could tell you many cartridges that won't join that group and one of the biggest reasons for those is the initial cost of a box of ammo for them, not that it makes a difference to me cause I hand load. If cartridges such a 26,28,30 nosler, 6.5 & 300 prc are to join that crowd they will have to get in the price range of $15-$25 a box on economy versions of ammo. I just don't see that happening.

The reason the big ones are so cheap is because of all of the available ammo. Id bet the 6.5prc will start going down in price once other ammo is made (assuming it takes off). I remember when 6.5cm first hit the shelves and it was quite expensive.

 

[John Polk]

I bought a 6mm RPR, a 308 RPR because they were so much cheaper the the 6.5 which I have a few in other brands. For ELR target & varmint I'll take the 6mm CM. I have a 264WM & a 6.5-300 WBY coming. So I'm covered with 6.5s but the baby 6.5 Creedmoor I think was desighned as a steel ringer not an elk hunter.

You're gonna love that 264WM.

 

[Andrew Cowling]

The 6mm Creedmoor is a 243 winchest wanna be as the 6.5 creedmoor is a 260 remington wanna be.

 

[Core781]

didn't add cartridges that aren't offered at your average store

Definitely the .308 7.62x51N They have already decided on replacing most battle rifles with 6.5CM. It just makes sense because our enemies are developing solutions that out match 7.62N. The longer range rifles are getting. 300 magnum and larger magnums like .338 lightning and .50 BMG and some in between cartridges. But .308 will be around for a long time I'm sure on the civilian side. They might keep it as a standard battle rifle like seen in KAC models. Also some bullpup designs that make it viable for one guy or two in the squad to use for longer range threats.

 

[VTbluegrass]

I personally think the 270 is slowly becoming obsolete. As a new shooter myself, no one in my shooting group is a proponent of the 270. Yes the 270 is a great round but there is very little heavy for caliber bullets. In my opinion new shooters/hunters either buy a 308, 3006, or they want the new hotness caliber such as a 6.5CM or 6.5PRC.

Maybe in groups of folks that are really into shooting. If we are talking deer hunters at large who rarely shoot a full box of ammo per season, these people make up the majority of the market, 270 is still seen as a gold standard of deer hunting. My wife is still the only hunter I personally know with a 6.5 Creedmoor and that's only because the Weatherby Vanguard Camilla isn't available in .270 that she wanted.

 

[just country]

morning, this is to u creedmore lovers bad mouthing
other calibers. the creed's r a federal half breed, trying
to duplicate calibers that have been around for decades.
I do not own one, never will. my 223-4, 243AI, 6mmAI,
22-250AI-3,6.5rem. mag,-257-2wbees, 7mmwbee,340wbee,250sav.
-308win. and more. all these proven calibers R GOING TO B REPLACED
BY THE CREEDMORES??? PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY DIFERENT
FAVORS. that's why GOD made dreamers. good luck justme gbot tum

 

[palerider3]

The 6mm Creedmoor is a 243 winchest wanna be as the 6.5 creedmoor is a 260 remington wanna be.

Lol, as cool as it seems to be to bash the creedmoor, this argument is based on nothing. I'm a 260 fan myself, I've had one since 2002. But the Creed has a better shoulder. The 243 is completely hampered by slow twists that don't work with high bc bullets. Anything the 243 does, the 6mm does. And the 6mm comes in guns that shoot long range bullets from the factory. The only thing that the .243 and .260 really do better, is keep case trimmers running with those 20° shoulders. Seriously, you don't have to like the creedmoor, but you can't make a logical argument about the 243 being better. When is the last time you saw an F-Open match won with a 20° shoulder?

 

[Bigeclipse]

Maybe in groups of folks that are really into shooting. If we are talking deer hunters at large who rarely shoot a full box of ammo per season, these people make up the majority of the market, 270 is still seen as a gold standard of deer hunting. My wife is still the only hunter I personally know with a 6.5 Creedmoor and that's only because the Weatherby Vanguard Camilla isn't available in .270 that she wanted.

Everyone in this club is a hunter. There's about 400 members now. I'd say about 75% under 40 years old.which is my point. I think the younger generation is tired of the 270. Again just my opinion.

 

[Bigeclipse]

morning, this is to u creedmore lovers bad mouthing
other calibers. the creed's r a federal half breed, trying
to duplicate calibers that have been around for decades.
I do not own one, never will. my 223-4, 243AI, 6mmAI,
22-250AI-3,6.5rem. mag,-257-2wbees, 7mmwbee,340wbee,250sav.
-308win. and more. all these proven calibers R GOING TO B REPLACED
BY THE CREEDMORES??? PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY DIFERENT
FAVORS. that's why GOD made dreamers. good luck justme gbot tum

Lmao the 6.5cm is here to stay. Sorry you are upset about that.

 

[palerider3]

morning, this is to u creedmore lovers bad mouthing
other calibers. the creed's r a federal half breed, trying
to duplicate calibers that have been around for decades.
I do not own one, never will. my 223-4, 243AI, 6mmAI,
22-250AI-3,6.5rem. mag,-257-2wbees, 7mmwbee,340wbee,250sav.
-308win. and more. all these proven calibers R GOING TO B REPLACED
BY THE CREEDMORES??? PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY DIFERENT
FAVORS. that's why GOD made dreamers. good luck justme gbot tum

Actually, I see way more other people bad mouthing creedmoors than the other way around. Shoot what you want. So will everyone else. But writing off a caliber just because it came out with a good marketing team doesn't make any sense. I don't think the creedmoor is replacing everything else by any means. But it's definitely giving a good option to a lot of newer shooters who don't reload or people who sometimes get busy and don't have time. The fact that there is quality ammo available for a decent price is enough to keep it from going away. It's not a fad that's going to die out. Also, I've been meaning to ask you, what's that mean in the bottom of your posts, "justme gbot tum"?

 

[foul bore]

the 260 gets hurt the most. What I would like to see is a 6mm Grendel

 

[flylo]

Maybe you young hunters can't handle the recoil of the bigger cartridges so you like the soft recoil of the ceedmoor or the name sounds cool as it was an old gun range in NY.

 

[Coyote_Hunter]

243, and 260 will have to be impacted most IMO

Add .257 Roberts to that, although sales are already low since the .243 Win was introduced.

The 6.5PRC will put a hurt on the .264 WM and .25-06 and steal some .270 Win sales along the way.

 

[Coyote_Hunter]

The 6mm Creedmoor is a 243 winchest wanna be as the 6.5 creedmoor is a 260 remington wanna be.

In the case of the 6.5CM and .260 Rem, I think you got it backwards. The .260 was never that popular, the 6.5CM is wildly popular.