MudRunner2005
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After reading his anti-Ackley Improved rants, I no longer read his posts, just skim them for laughs.i have a headache now
Like I said on the last page... My opinions sure don't seem so bad anymore, do they?
What makes the 6.5 PRC special?
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Like I said on the last page... My opinions sure don't seem so bad anymore, do they?
Well, very late to this thread, and skipped over most of it.
Here is my thoughts:
The US military is rather slow to make changes.
They just announced an order from Barnett for 30 PRC rifles going out to 2022 or something.
barrett-to-produce-mrad-rifles-in-300-prc-for-dod/
So, Hornady must be doing something right.
It's not like the US military has no experience with ballistics...
Just saying...I don't think they are drinking the Koolade of marketing hype.
Hornady has done some good engineering and is being recognized.
Yes, my 60 year old 30 06 (based on a 115 year old design) still bullets through the air.
Just better choices today if you are starting from scratch and not fighting legacy issues.
Here is my thoughts:
The US military is rather slow to make changes.
They just announced an order from Barnett for 30 PRC rifles going out to 2022 or something.
barrett-to-produce-mrad-rifles-in-300-prc-for-dod/
So, Hornady must be doing something right.
It's not like the US military has no experience with ballistics...
Just saying...I don't think they are drinking the Koolade of marketing hype.
Hornady has done some good engineering and is being recognized.
Yes, my 60 year old 30 06 (based on a 115 year old design) still bullets through the air.
Just better choices today if you are starting from scratch and not fighting legacy issues.
There was a rather long VID (IDK NRA?)
A WII sniper (of some considerable skill and accomplishment) went to camp Perry and did some 1000 yard shooting.
The reason was that he mentioned that he just could not believe that it was possible.
His experience was the 300-500 yard shots were what a really good sniper could achieve. 1000 and beyond seemed incredulous to him.
Just saying...your rant is not based on facts...the technology imoproves every day and moves the goal posts.
Yes, skill and training is required...but without the technology as a foundation...limits stagnate.
Don A Parsons
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Isn't the 6,5 PRC the same thing as a 6.5/06. Ha
I'm glad I'm stuck in the past.
Old school, worn out tool I guess. At least extra cash in my wallet goes towards endless days of hunting.
Yuppers, sure nice having everything in my category paid for,,, endless days of sun shine with none of that foolish work stuff that takes away from living life full bore .
Hunting and fishing in the great outdoors is well worth the rewards. LOL
I'm glad I'm stuck in the past.
Old school, worn out tool I guess. At least extra cash in my wallet goes towards endless days of hunting.
Yuppers, sure nice having everything in my category paid for,,, endless days of sun shine with none of that foolish work stuff that takes away from living life full bore .
Hunting and fishing in the great outdoors is well worth the rewards. LOL
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I have to admit I am also intrigued by the 300 PRC but I find myself asking what does it do that the 300 Weatherby doesn't already do...
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RMorris
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As has been said, "Amateurs talk of ballistics, experts talk of logistics."
In my little town in west Texas, I saw 6.5 PRC on the shelves before there were rifles available and I can find it every day in 2 of 3 stores that sell ammo. It may fizzle out. It may not. The 6.5 SAUM was all the rage here for years, and Hornady commercialized something very similar. Their logistics and marketing were genius.
In my little town in west Texas, I saw 6.5 PRC on the shelves before there were rifles available and I can find it every day in 2 of 3 stores that sell ammo. It may fizzle out. It may not. The 6.5 SAUM was all the rage here for years, and Hornady commercialized something very similar. Their logistics and marketing were genius.
so, IDK if others have already mentioned:
Correct barrel twist and shorter case I'd guess.
Not inventing the wheel, simply optimizing all of the system for the heavy ELD bullets.
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Beltless case.
MudRunner2005
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I've still yet to hear anyone mention how there is an advantage to a non-belted case, other than illogical fallacies that were perpetuated years ago by some company trying to push their non-belted case designs...
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hunter67wa
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Point that I was trying to make was that if we had a commercially mainstream hotter 6.5 some of this wouldn't be happening. I do agree the short mags and changes in case design have come a long ways. We are still catching up on the 6.5's and I will build a 6.5 Sherman this coming year.
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-How about 8+ full power loadings vs 4?
-How about being able to actually size the shoulder to exactly where it needs to be without leaving the portion next to the belt unsized?
-How about it being easier to time an internal box magazine so that the shell doesn't jump from the feed lips before it is well into the chamber?
-When was the last time you ever saw Lapua belted brass?
MudRunner2005
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Show me evidence that you can load a non-belted case more times than a belted case strictly because the belt being there. You can't. Plain and simple.
Last I checked, the shoulder and the belt have nothing to do with each other...They're on opposite ends. My shoulders resize just fine on my belted cases. Setting your dies up properly goes a long way.
The feeding rails on an action and the lips on Magazines start ramping from the front, not the back, the front starts, the back follows. Try again...
Your last example is the best... Obviously you have no idea that Lapua used to make .300 WinMag ammo...In Lapua brand brass.
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